Hmmm guess the Dev's really hate the idea of defense - Page 3

Doppler · 2003-07-23, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by Hamma
If they have gone this far in announcing it, it will be live in one form or another. So don't hold your breath

Anyone remember the lodestar?

But in all seriousness here is what I whould suggest. The stupid "flag" module (call it what you will it will still be a flag in my mind) is only an expediter. Here's how it break down, five minuetes of hack goes by, computer system is now begining to transmit the security and authentication codes to your empire to bring the base under your controll. Since this is terrabytes of infirmation ( i know I know but work with me here) it's downloaded to a emmory module (which schould not spawn randomly in the base, since the defending empire cant destroy the thing anyway) Now you have two choices you may devide your forces towards running the flag, and keep some back at the base to guard the CC, or you may simply hold out and guard the CC in the traditional manner. This allows the attackers to expedite the hacks whithout screwing the defenders enitrely. Should the ha kers take the flag and run, and then the defenders breach the CC and rehack it proceeds as it always has with the base being resecured and the Flag going "POOF". This is a way to use the flag system without completely screwing the defenders. I also think think that placing a boomer on a dropped flag should destroy it, or maybe an oribtal strike, the damn things shouldnt be completely indestructable.

Hamma · 2003-07-23, 06:51 PM

Originally posted by Doppler
Anyone remember the lodestar?

Have they said anywhere that its not coming out?

Headrattle · 2003-07-23, 06:52 PM

My main problems.

Random spawning location of the LLM (LLU.) This hurts defense. If the LLU spawned in a seperate room it would give the defense a place to fall back on. Lets say that hacking the CC only opens a room. In that room is the LLM. They must carry the LLM out of the base and to a linked friendly base. Random means that you have to go get it.

Defense can't pick it up. I have said it before and I'll say it again. You defended a base, you failed. You defended the LLM when it spawned, you failed. Both of those times you actually had spawn points near. You had resources, and terminals available.
Now you don't. You have to guard something that is in the middle of no where, behind enemy lines, with baddies crawling around. Chances are slim that you are going to be able to guard it for any amount of time. If you could pick it up and return it to the base. GREAT! That would help defense here. This won't.

I can accept CTF. It might lose a little magic for me, but I can accept it. I can't accept it done incorrectly where defense doesn't have a chance at all. I can't accept cercumstances that increase the Zerg.

Doppler · 2003-07-23, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by Hamma
Have they said anywhere that its not coming out?

Whould you concied that my lack of faith is perhaps justified considering they've kept us appraised of every other thing they might introduce.

Navaron · 2003-07-23, 07:31 PM

Originally posted by X-113
I don't think the LLU will ALWAYS be caught out in an open field. There are plenty of forests and mountains to fight on. Just look at Hossin. Someone drops the LLU there and you'll be lucky to EVER find that thing in a swamp.

The thing fucking glows and shows up on the map, Helen Keller could find it.

Sputty · 2003-07-23, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by {BOHICA}Navaron
The thing fucking glows and shows up on the map, Helen Keller could find it.

And when she does she'll meet a nice volley of rocklets!
I like to hurt disabled people.

Hezzy · 2003-07-23, 07:43 PM

I like this idea. It can open up lots of tactical thinking. What happens if there are no other bases under your control on a continent? (Dont shout at me, cos I haven't seen anything about it) I like the idea of having to hack the CC first, then having to carry the LLU back to base. The CC should be able to get hacked again, which would destroy the LLU if its being carried.

Cauldron Borne · 2003-07-23, 07:49 PM

and who evers carrying it

Cauldron Borne · 2003-07-23, 07:54 PM

But seriously. I think if its going to be like CTF then it should be like UT CTF where if the attacker grabs it s/he has to go to his/her base. If the attacker drops it a defender/runner ought to just touch it and it returns to the room of wence it came. This would also open the doors to other possiblities like a LLU room (I believe this has already been stated). That would also make the defenders job easier.

And about this Loadstar. WHAT THE HELL IS IT???? I can't find ANY info on it. will someone please TELL ME WHAT THE HELL IT IS?
thanks.

Hezzy · 2003-07-23, 07:55 PM

[i]And about this Loadstar. WHAT THE HELL IS IT???? I can't find ANY info on it. will someone please TELL ME WHAT THE HELL IT IS?
thanks.

Aircraft that can carry vechicles like tanks and stuff