Lasher Adjustment on Test - Page 3

Katanaboy · 2003-07-29, 03:41 AM

i think they should put an AP alternate fire onto the lasher, just like the other vanu weapons, and maybe AP could have a slower rate of fire, and do crap damage to softies. (like our favorite laser pointer, the beamer). After all, the vanu are "supposed" to be versatile.

Cease · 2003-07-29, 04:14 AM

Definately sounds like they are making the proper changes. Its still gonna be an uber indoor combat weapon like the JH. Just not a terror vs Maxes and AMSs like it currently is.

I think this decision has come too soon. It's only been a week for christ sake. People complaing about it killing max/vehicles too fast are forgetting about the guy standing behind them with a decimator or the 2 or 3 people in the distance with lancers. Or the reaver or mosquito that jumped in on the action.

Nah, I drive an AMS. Its already happened to me several times where a lone Lasher guys wanders up to my AMS. I've seen first hand the damage they do to armor by ONE lasher. I've also been the repairman for my outfits Maxes on many occassions. I've see how quickly a lasher can hurt them with just a few shots. Also, don't forget that Twist has been testing the Lasher out himself a lot lately on the live servers.

WritheNC · 2003-07-29, 05:16 AM

Its a fair adjustment for the Lasher.

However, it does remain true that the VS are lacking in other areas and those issues do need to be addressed.

Like the MAX'es, Beamer and Pulsar(holy crap I used a Pulsar tonight, could barely kill anything with it).

Eliaas_Demens · 2003-07-29, 09:48 AM

Writhe you're a bastard. All I needed was another half second to have your spiked MAX buddy dead from a boomer. You just had to shoot me in the back.

Zentenk VA · 2003-07-29, 10:04 AM

How can you not kill anything w/ Pulsar? It has more ammo in a clip than the gauss, accuracy and the recoil are slim to none and it can switch to ap at a press of the button... It does 1 less dmg than guass... one point. I've tested it point blank w/ a friend we were both in reinforced armor. Pulsar is best medium assault weapon period.

Dyram · 2003-07-29, 10:08 AM

Nobody likes us VS

Now that our HA weapon is finally equal to the others..... everyone screams NERF TEH LASHER!!! The Devs seem to be the only ones... other than a few of you on these forums, that want to make us equal to the other empires. Most people want us to play at more of a disadvantage than we are already at (i.e. glowstick knife, laser tag pistol, etc...). I hope they stop nerfing our stuff and start fixing it instead.

Madcow · 2003-07-29, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by Dyram
Nobody likes us VS Now that our HA weapon is finally equal to the others..... everyone screams NERF TEH LASHER!!!

I think the point is that they want your HA to be equal to the others. I personally think they shouldn't move so quick on this and that they would need stats over a more extended period of time before they make a move, but I think everybody was aware pretty quickly that some sort of move was going to be made. The Lasher complaints made the JH complaints seem pretty tame, but I think that's just because the NC are much better whiners than we gave them credit for.

WritheNC · 2003-07-29, 10:40 AM

How can you not kill anything w/ Pulsar? It has more ammo in a clip than the gauss, accuracy and the recoil are slim to none and it can switch to ap at a press of the button... It does 1 less dmg than guass... one point. I've tested it point blank w/ a friend we were both in reinforced armor. Pulsar is best medium assault weapon period.

It does less than one point of damage at point blank range. The problem with the pulsar is that the damage dropoff rate is horrendous. In a firefight at medium range the pulsar doesn't stand up as well as the gauss or the cycler, both of which keep a more respectable damage at longer ranges.

Or so I've been told.

Cease · 2003-07-29, 10:46 AM

The only equality that the HA weapons should have is their role: Close Quarters Combat. The Lasher not only fills this role but has been proven to be very effective at killing maxes and light vehicles. Its also shown effectiveness at range as well. Those are the two issues the Devs are addressing. Its still gonna be a beast at its role as a Heavy Assault weapon.... it just wont be an effective AV and Medium Assualt weapon as it is in its current form.

Strygun · 2003-07-29, 11:09 AM

Originally posted by Cease
I think this decision has come too soon. It's only been a week for christ sake. People complaing about it killing max/vehicles too fast are forgetting about the guy standing behind them with a decimator or the 2 or 3 people in the distance with lancers. Or the reaver or mosquito that jumped in on the action.

It had been on test for awhile before it went live.

Ceiba · 2003-07-29, 11:52 AM

Nah, I drive an AMS. Its already happened to me several times where a lone Lasher guys wanders up to my AMS. I've seen first hand the damage they do to armor by ONE lasher.

I've been the driver and the lasher user that's shooting at the AMS. And a single user doesn't take them out that quickly. It takes around 4 clips.

It had been on test for awhile before it went live.

Have you even been on the test server? The only time there were equal numbers in the empires is when the devs were giving out free xp for showing up. And when they weren't doing that it was twice as many vanu as the others. It was almost the same conditions as the first few days after the patch. How can you get accurate info with those lopsided numbers?

Pyro212 · 2003-07-29, 12:03 PM

This all could of been avoided if they would have better listened to the communtity.
We asked for faster moving orbs they gave us faster ROF.
WE didn't want faster ROF.
Go back to the old lasher just make the orbs move faster and make it lash more.

Cease · 2003-07-29, 12:11 PM

I've been the driver and the lasher user that's shooting at the AMS. And a single user doesn't take them out that quickly. It takes around 4 clips.

Thank you for taking what I said out of context. My response was to the gent that said "People complaing about it killing max/vehicles too fast are forgetting about the guy standing behind them with a decimator or the 2 or 3 people in the distance with lancers.

Which is why I quoted him before I replied.

And thats why my reply says "...I've seen first hand the damage they do to armor by ONE lasher.

I never said a single user can take out an AMS fast. No one grunt takes out an AMS fast, even with AV weapons because AMSs are tough as nails.

Strygun · 2003-07-29, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by Ceiba
Have you even been on the test server? The only time there were equal numbers in the empires is when the devs were giving out free xp for showing up. And when they weren't doing that it was twice as many vanu as the others. It was almost the same conditions as the first few days after the patch. How can you get accurate info with those lopsided numbers?

that's why I said in a different thread that the CSR's for this game are unsatisfactory.

Ceiba · 2003-07-29, 12:49 PM

Thank you for taking what I said out of context. My response was to the gent that said "People complaing about it killing max/vehicles too fast are forgetting about the guy standing behind them with a decimator or the 2 or 3 people in the distance with lancers.

The person you quoted was me. Now tell me what you meant in your reply since I took it out of context.