Today's music sucks. - Page 3

GreyFox · 2004-03-24, 04:10 PM

There is ALOT of music today. ALOT. You can't say everything is shait. Because it isn't.

Search further, search harder. Be more open minded, don't give in to hate. Or the dark side you will be swept into.

1024 · 2004-03-24, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by firecrackerNC

gotta love how everyone thinks there right.Me included in that.As for me being weakminded,lol.Thats funny,just because I like stuff that is in the media doesnt make me weak minded.I tryed to listen to the old shit and let me say it sucks ass.I cant stand it.I dont know why.Mabey cause I cant get into it at all but whatever the reason I hate it.Dont be dissing people because they dont like your shit.....err different type of music taste

How much do you listen to music? How many hours a day?

OneManArmy · 2004-03-24, 10:14 PM

oh god its another m-penis fight.

I was gonna type your usual hey this is the music I like and its awsome and you should all listen to it because its the best ever. but fuck all of you. you dont deserve it

beauty is in the eye of the beholder. same goes for music. end of story.

AztecWarrior · 2004-03-24, 10:15 PM

Everyone to their own taste. However: It can be established that most music now tries to sell you a lifestyle. All the music wants to push a certain type of clothing/certain feelings. Modern metal is either extreme anger or sadness. Modern rap encourages objectification of women, among other things.

Furthermore, they try to push clothing. See: And 1, Hot Topic, Fat Albert, etc.

1024 · 2004-03-24, 10:29 PM

:hate: = hot topic

WARNING: IF YOU ASK WHY YOU'LL BE EXPOSED TO A EXTREME RANT BY YOURS TRULY.

Firefly · 2004-03-24, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by 1024

:hate: = hot topic

WARNING: IF YOU ASK WHY YOU'LL BE EXPOSED TO A EXTREME RANT BY YOURS TRULY.

Why?

1024 · 2004-03-24, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by Firefly

Why?

Hot Topic turned punk into a fashion. I'm not even a very big fan of punk and i feel the hate for this place.

Not many know this but before Hot Topic, people used to MAKE the spiked braclets, chains attached to your waist( not very complicated

), and all the other paraphernalia you see sold at hot topic.

Before Hot Topic, there were punk rockers. The guys who actually spent the time to make the stuff so that they were visually identifiable as punk rockers. Nowadays, they still exist, but not as many of them do. I go to a lot of shows, and I can't count the amount of times i've seen a real punk rocker on my hands. And just so you know, punk isn't just about the music (although its a very big part of it). It's also about the community and the looks(not neccesarily something i agree with, but ehh, wahtever).

After Hot Topic, ...Being so-called "punk" is now a fashion. You can go down and get those spiekd braclets that were originally made, for an insanely overpriced $13 dollars(or so i'm told). That's just one example. I don't even want to expand on that subcategory more.

In conclusion, Hot Topic has brought being "punk" to the mainstream. People who shop at nowhere but Hot Topic(nicknamed "Preppie Punks" around where i live) are a mockery to real punk rockers, and I for one am pissed off by this. Peopel need to stop trying to be something they're not, stop trying to drop themselves into a category, a group, stop trying to identify with something, and just let fucking go. They need to just be themselves. Damnit.

I have to add though, that this is all a conclusion i've come up with while observing atmospheres at shows and at high school. And hey, I might be wrong, it might be a terrible tradgedy, but whatever.

Angel_of_Death · 2004-03-24, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by Neon Apocalypse

I agree with most of you. And 1024 i do agree with you, and I think that you also agree with me. Theres just too few good bands.

Angel...you're full of shit. Music isn't about getting paid, to some people it is. It became about getting paid is that people loved it so much and thats all they wanted to do, and they took it to another level. But today most people dont care and they just care about money and women. Alot of bands have sold out. Metallica for example. Metallica's old music is 10x better than the stuff that they made recentally. Back then it was about the music, they didn't care about anything else. Now they don't care and its just for the money.

What I was trying to prove here was that the media is trying to make money off youth (us) by promoting music that sucks. MTV does most of this and because MTV is "cool" to those who aren't independent and want to be "cool" they think the muic MTV promotes is "cool" . Im not saying all music that MTV plays sucks, just most of it.

Music started out being a bunch of people around a campfire singing, or sailors singing on voyages. It only became about money until recentally.

You clearly don't know what you're talking about. People do play music for fun, no fuckin shit. But do you really think that people would donate their lives to the band for no money or if they didn't get famous? Why wouldn't they just stay in their garage band then? No, it's always been about money and fame. Whether fun has been mixed in their is irrelevant, because they are drawn in for the fame and money. And possibly bitches.

Metallica conformed to the tastes of the new generation. They thought that with their new style they would either spark some old listeners to start listening again, and to catch the new group of kids who didn't like their old stuff. Well, it failed, but they tried. It's always been about the money.

Music started out being a bunch of people around a campfire singing, or sailors singing on voyages. It only became about money until recentally.

People singing around campfires, and sailors singing together, aren't careers. They don't get paid for it. They don't dedicate their entire week, singing, making music, playing at concerts, or rehearsing. They do it as a passtime, which is in an entirely different section than what we are talking about.
The music MTV plays doesn't suck just because you dislike it. Most of the young crowd likes it, hence why MTV plays it. If everyone liked the old shit more, they'd play that. But they play what the majority wants to hear. Obviously. As for that "those who aren't independent and want to be cool" crap, that's just completely wrong. Just because people like the new music and follow some of the new trends, doesn't mean they aren't independent, have low self-esteem and are simply followers. True, some are, but there's always followers. People just like the music, just as you like whatever the hell you like.

Originally Posted by 1024

Holy fucking shit you have no idea what you're talking about.

Do you even play an instrument? Have you even gotten together with a bunch of your friends and played music together?

Let me tell you: It's an incredible feeling. It's a unique high that you can get nowhere else.

You're totally full of shit. Not everybody is in it for the money.

Yes, I do play the guitar and have played with my friends together. That is for fun. Nobody here is talking about garage bands though, so that is all irrelevant shit.

We are talking about those who dedicate their lives to making music. But as I asked above, would people still do it if it were just for fun? No. That's why we go home and play with our friends. For fun. These artists are in it for money and fame. I'm sure most of them love what they do, but they wouldn't be in the business if you removed these factors.

Money makes the fuckin world go round. Not fun. But you're right, I'm full of shit because I have a better understanding of the real world.

1024 · 2004-03-24, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by Angel_of_Death

Yes, I do play the guitar and have played with my friends together. That is for fun. Nobody here is talking about garage bands though, so that is all irrelevant shit.

We are talking about those who dedicate their lives to making music. But as I asked above, would people still do it if it were just for fun? No. That's why we go home and play with our friends. For fun. These artists are in it for money and fame. I'm sure most of them love what they do, but they wouldn't be in the business if you removed these factors.

Money makes the fuckin world go round. Not fun. But you're right, I'm full of shit because I have a better understanding of the real world.

I guess you've never heard anyone say:

"Hey if i can get paid for doing what I love/exercising one of my passions, SURE!"

Fuck, I play the drums, and i'm totally in it for the music. But hey, if some dude comes up to me and tells me he's going to pay me a shitload of money to play the instrument I love, then you'll get a solid, "FUCK YEAH," outta me.

Ever think of it that way?

Firefly · 2004-03-24, 11:36 PM

I've played on stage before, for fun. I was in a band that made it out of the garage. NOTHING beats the thrill of playing in front of people and seeing them enjoy what you make. It's almost as good as great sex because you're doing what you love AND you're doing it for people's enjoyment.

For the record, I've played free shows, I've played pay shows. I didn't make much money for it but I loved every second of it regardless. I don't care about the money. If someone said to me right now, "Hey Freak, you wanna be a rock star? One catch, you won't make money." I wouldn't hesitate to tell them hell yeah. Playing music is the ultimate high for me. Making people happy with my music, giving them enjoyment because of something that I do...

THAT is what music is about. I couldn't care less about "bitches" (try to refrain from being obtuse in the future, kid). I couldn't care less about money or fame. As long as I get to do what I love, and get to have some awesome fun doing it. I can work side gigs at McDonalds to pay the rent.

arctik · 2004-03-24, 11:37 PM

Punk used to be for individuals and now anyone can be punk for a couple dollars. Posers shop at Hot Topic and this pisses me off and I'm not even in to the whole culture. In my opinion its going just like it did with the whole gansta shit, people think its cool so they buy the cloths and pretend to be in a gang etc. so they can be cool.

1024 · 2004-03-24, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by Firefly

I've played on stage before, for fun. I was in a band that made it out of the garage. NOTHING beats the thrill of playing in front of people and seeing them enjoy what you make. It's almost as good as great sex because you're doing what you love AND you're doing it for people's enjoyment.

For the record, I've played free shows, I've played pay shows. I didn't make much money for it but I loved every second of it regardless. I don't care about the money. If someone said to me right now, "Hey Freak, you wanna be a rock star? One catch, you won't make money." I wouldn't hesitate to tell them hell yeah. Playing music is the ultimate high for me. Making people happy with my music, giving them enjoyment because of something that I do...

THAT is what music is about. I couldn't care less about "bitches" (try to refrain from being obtuse in the future, kid). I couldn't care less about money or fame. As long as I get to do what I love, and get to have some awesome fun doing it. I can work side gigs at McDonalds to pay the rent.

Thats what the fuck i'm talking about. Firefly, you are officialy one of my favorite people here at PSU now. You share the exact same idea I do. Playing music for other people serisouly gives me the greatest high, ever.

Firefly · 2004-03-24, 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by arctik

Punk used to be for individuals and now anyone can be punk for a couple dollars. Posers shop at Hot Topic and this pisses me off and I'm not even in to the whole culture. In my opinion its going just like it did with the whole gansta shit, people think its cool so they buy the cloths and pretend to be in a gang etc. so they can be cool.

That's why I continue to wear what I want. I stick to my Doc Martin steeltoes (they're comfortable, durable, and could be worn in BDUs), my jeans and my t-shirt. And when I need warmth, my leather jacket.

Skin baby. No pretense, just a razor.

Originally Posted by 1024

Thats what the fuck i'm talking about. Firefly, you are officialy one of my favorite people here at PSU now. You share the exact same idea I do. Playing music for other people serisouly gives me the greatest high, ever.

Oops missed this the first post. Apparently it's not just me, A_O_D. So... what are we, freaks?

Dharkbayne · 2004-03-25, 12:26 AM

I agree with 1024. In every way.

OneManArmy · 2004-03-25, 04:02 PM

if any of you people even begin to think you know music check out Robert Randolph & the Family Band and tell me that they are not the shit. you complain about todays music sucking? right there he has got to be one of the greatest guitarists around. i jsut picked up there cd and EVERY song kicks ass. simply amazing.