Weapon of Choice - Page 3

JetRaiden · 2004-05-03, 06:14 PM

yea.

Ive been playing it alot lately and thats teh only site I could think of with weapons like that.

snowwolfe · 2004-05-03, 06:16 PM

p226

Neon Apocalypse · 2004-05-03, 06:18 PM

oicw hands down

JetRaiden · 2004-05-03, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by Neon Apocalypse

oicw hands down

dude OICW wieghs like 70 lbs you know that right?

JakeLogan · 2004-05-03, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by Neon Apocalypse

oicw hands down

son of a..... you beat me to it

http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg57-e.htm

well I'd have to say the Calico M960 submachine gun (USA) with the pistol style with the 50 round clip

Originally Posted by JetRaiden

dude OICW wieghs like 70 lbs you know that right?

Weight: ca 5.5 kg empty; ca 6.8 kg loaded
UI don't think that translate into 70lbs

Mango · 2004-05-03, 06:32 PM

Rifle-wise i'm gonna have to go with this Morita

I'll take the chick too

dscytherulez · 2004-05-03, 06:35 PM

OICW's weigh about 14 lbs with all necessary and some optional attachments.

Edit: 12 unloaded with no extras.

Firefly · 2004-05-03, 06:38 PM

Having lived a fairly adventurous and active military career, I can safely say I can, could, and/or have used most of the standard arms you might see. I am also amazed at the Hollywood-brainwashed stupidity of some people here. The Calico is a piece of shit. Its sales sucked balls for a reason. Because the weapon sucked balls. Why do you think they went out of business? It might be pretty and spacey... but it fires like a two year old girl.

Originally Posted by JetRaiden

dude OICW wieghs like 70 lbs you know that right?

Uh... negative. Its earlier variant the LAND WARRIOR system altogether weighed around a hundred pounds, I believe. The OICW is a scaled-down more-effective version made by like seventeen different companies (they each have a piece to make). Try doing your homework before you go farting off at the mouth.

I believe in stopping power versus fancy artsy-fartsy garbage. Berettas are "handy" because they are cheap, dime-a-dozen, and fire a standard-size munition. Every dime-store hood and cheap ghetto "gangsta" has one... that's part of the problem. if they all have them and there are so many shootings, why do so many of them still exist? I'll tell you why. The 9mm round itself is a piece of shit. Why do you think TR sucks? You can hit a guy with a 9mil and unless you head-shot him, chances are he's going to get up and beat the fuck out of you. And you'd deserve it.

Stopping power puts down your enemies. Lots of lead does not. You can fire a magazine of 9mil at a target and, perhaps if G'd was smiling on you and wanted you to go home and see your little girl, you'd walk away. Big-bore pistols. Don't give me that Desert Eagle shit... that's overkill. If you can stand without your arms shaking after that, if you can fucking HEAR after firing the seven-round magazine, you don't need a gun. It's a heavy-hitting weapon, made mainly for sporting and target shooting... because unless you're shooting engine blocks on semi rigs, it's fucking impractical and utterly useless. Forty-five is a decent size heavy-hitter. So I go with a modern .45 (older ones might be "refurbished" aka retreads). Wilson Combat makes a bad-ass .45 that you simply cannot beat. As far as two-handed firing... that's for Perfect Dark and Goldeneye. Unless you're ambidextrous and well-trained to overcome dominance, you'll basically be spraying and praying... meaning wasting rounds.

If you're talking about bigger weapons, specify either shotguns or rifles. I myself prefer Remington or Ithaca shotguns, but that's simply because they're reliable and make a bad-ass bang... in addition to a decent hole in your chest. For rifles, I go with something that fires at least 7.62... since I believe in the laws of lead, we're talking AK variants. If possible I'll take a machinegun. My first duty station, I carried the M249 SAW until we went to Bosnia, then I was carrying an M60. We eventually upgraded to M240 (also known as Mag-something...) and because I was the biggest boy on the team, I got it.

Firepower is ultimate. Accuracy is secondary... you can hit them all day. But if you can't put them down, you're a target. Firepower does not necessarily mean rate of fire... but it does mean bigger bore.

ControlledBurn · 2004-05-03, 06:39 PM

My H&K USP .45f with plenty of FMJ and JHP on hand, all loaded in pre-ban mags of course. For portability an M16 with an M203 would be preferable. A 240G if I really wanted some heavy 7.62 NATO fire. God how I love the sound of a 240G.

If I had to be loaded for bear, a SMAW with ammo and some Stingers would be nice. Ooooh, or maybe a Mk19 40mm automatic grenade launcher and a Ma Deuce, the M2 .50 cal.

Edit: Evidently great minds do think alike after reading Firefly's post after I finished my post.

oddfish · 2004-05-03, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by Firefly

Having lived a fairly adventurous and active military career, I can safely say I can, could, and/or have used most of the standard arms you might see. I am also amazed at the Hollywood-brainwashed stupidity of some people here. The Calico is a piece of shit. Its sales sucked balls for a reason. Because the weapon sucked balls. Why do you think they went out of business? It might be pretty and spacey... but it fires like a two year old girl.

Uh... negative. Its earlier variant the LAND WARRIOR system altogether weighed around a hundred pounds, I believe. The OICW is a scaled-down more-effective version made by like seventeen different companies (they each have a piece to make). Try doing your homework before you go farting off at the mouth.

I believe in stopping power versus fancy artsy-fartsy garbage. Berettas are "handy" because they are cheap, dime-a-dozen, and fire a standard-size munition. Every dime-store hood and cheap ghetto "gangsta" has one... that's part of the problem. if they all have them and there are so many shootings, why do so many of them still exist? I'll tell you why. The 9mm round itself is a piece of shit. Why do you think TR sucks? You can hit a guy with a 9mil and unless you head-shot him, chances are he's going to get up and beat the fuck out of you. And you'd deserve it.

Stopping power puts down your enemies. Lots of lead does not. You can fire a magazine of 9mil at a target and, perhaps if G'd was smiling on you and wanted you to go home and see your little girl, you'd walk away. Big-bore pistols. Don't give me that Desert Eagle shit... that's overkill. If you can stand without your arms shaking after that, if you can fucking HEAR after firing the seven-round magazine, you don't need a gun. It's a heavy-hitting weapon, made mainly for sporting and target shooting... because unless you're shooting engine blocks on semi rigs, it's fucking impractical and utterly useless. Forty-five is a decent size heavy-hitter. So I go with a modern .45 (older ones might be "refurbished" aka retreads). Wilson Combat makes a bad-ass .45 that you simply cannot beat. As far as two-handed firing... that's for Perfect Dark and Goldeneye. Unless you're ambidextrous and well-trained to overcome dominance, you'll basically be spraying and praying... meaning wasting rounds.

If you're talking about bigger weapons, specify either shotguns or rifles. I myself prefer Remington or Ithaca shotguns, but that's simply because they're reliable and make a bad-ass bang... in addition to a decent hole in your chest. For rifles, I go with something that fires at least 7.62... since I believe in the laws of lead, we're talking AK variants. If possible I'll take a machinegun. My first duty station, I carried the M249 SAW until we went to Bosnia, then I was carrying an M60. We eventually upgraded to M240 (also known as Mag-something...) and because I was the biggest boy on the team, I got it.

Firepower is ultimate. Accuracy is secondary... you can hit them all day. But if you can't put them down, you're a target. Firepower does not necessarily mean rate of fire... but it does mean bigger bore.

i've been saying this shit forever. .45's the way to go when it comes to a handgun in close quarters, the only place a handgun should be used anyways. The .45 will knock you flat. the .40 S&W isn't a bad round either, but still doesn't have the stopping power of the .45 ACP. Oh well, bananas.

JakeLogan · 2004-05-03, 06:46 PM

Firefly he was asking if you were in a John woo movie where the guns never have any problems you never get shot and never EVER run out of ammo. if itwas for real I'd probably want something along the lines of a M4 carbine with older style M203 40mm grenade launcher. simply due to the stopping power of the rifle itself and the scatter ability of the 40mm grenade launcher.

EDIT: I simply said the calico because it looks like (if it worked properly) would be a bad ass gun and it wasn't killed off because it was a piece of shit there was meant to be a civlian model that was semi auto but the US Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 that truely killed it off (Which I think was actaully a good idea last thing we want is gang bangers running 50/100 rounds in a clip)

EDIT again: The M-16 was originally a piece of shit too. till it was revised I';m sure if the calico had actually seen use the bugs it had would have been fixed.

oddfish · 2004-05-03, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by JakeLogan

Firefly he was asking if you were in a John woo movie where the guns never have any problems you never get shot and never EVER run out of ammo. if itwas for real I'd probably want something along the lines of a M4 carbine with older style M203 40mm grenade launcher. simply due to the stopping power of the rifle itself and the scatter ability of the 40mm grenade launcher

yeah, initially i was going for what you think you'd look coolest shooting with.

Firefly · 2004-05-03, 06:49 PM

Okay the M4 is not stopping power unless you're exploding heads. Let's not say things we don't mean. The M4 is a carbine. Now... you put that 203 round through someone's head at close range, and we're talking!

As far as John Woo movies... yeah. See that might appeal to me if I weren't jaded by this thing called reality. Having been there and done that, you know?

Of course, I'd love to run sideways on walls and take on fifty gun-toting former-SF mercenaries with a chair and my wits. Because we all know that ninjas can dodge bullets.

oddfish · 2004-05-03, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by Firefly

Okay the M4 is not stopping power unless you're exploding heads. Let's not say things we don't mean. The M4 is a carbine. Now... you put that 203 round through someone's head at close range, and we're talking!

As far as John Woo movies... yeah. See that might appeal to me if I weren't jaded by this thing called reality. Having been there and done that, you know?

Of course, I'd love to run sideways on walls and take on fifty gun-toting former-SF mercenaries with a chair and my wits. Because we all know that ninjas can dodge bullets.

yes, ninjas can dodge bullets. they have amazing powers.

Onizuka-GTO · 2004-05-03, 06:55 PM

I want to go blazing with this gun!

The Sig Sauer P250 DCc!!! Not only does it look sassy, it's light, compact it has a decent clip size and comes in .45 calibre.

And iam not just repeating what i read of that website either.

Well okay iam, but its still a cool weapon isn't it?