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Old 2004-06-29, 12:04 AM   [Ignore Me] #31
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you know, thats what the Israilies already do, few of them die, the palestinians get a few missiles up their ass, however its hard to know whom to belive, about the subject. i however side with israile, because, they had peace talks going, and some fuck goes and blows up a bus, about a year ago, it was all smooth too, it could have ended it all, there was even a "cease fire" but noooooo. stupid fuckin crazy ass bitches/
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Old 2004-06-29, 12:34 AM   [Ignore Me] #32
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Originally Posted by TekDragon
It's been said before many times.

If all the Isrealis swore against violence and got rid of all their weapons, within a week all the isrealis would be dead.

If all the muslims swore against violence and got rid of all their weapons, we'd have eternal peace in the middle east.

You can't negotiate with people who think it's their religious duty to kill everyone. You HAVE to kill them. ALL of them.

Actually, you have it completely backwards Tek. If the israelis stopped fighting, the palestinians wouldnt have any reason to continue suicide bombings, and attacks.

But, if the Palestinians stopped fighting, the Israelis would see it as an opportunity to just roll in, take over, and kick everyone out.

You need to understand. The Israelis are on the offensive, they want all the land. The palestnians are simply trying to hold on to what they have, as more and more of it is taken away from them.

Next time you make outrageous, and biased claims, try to back them up a bit
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Old 2004-06-29, 12:40 AM   [Ignore Me] #33
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take some of your own advice there derfud. oh, and by the way, last month Sharon encouraged Israelies to leave the Gaza strip to prevent more fighting. He pulled the settlements back to try to negotiate.
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Old 2004-06-29, 12:43 AM   [Ignore Me] #34
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Can I see a news link to an article?
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Old 2004-06-29, 01:20 AM   [Ignore Me] #35
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Why would the Palestinians stop suicide bombings, etc? Honestly.
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Old 2004-06-29, 01:25 AM   [Ignore Me] #36
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Well obviously they arent just blowing themselves up for the sake of it. They are doing it for a cause, in this case, attempting to counter Israeli take-over of their lands. If the israelis stopped, they would have no reason to keep killing themselves.
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Old 2004-06-29, 01:33 AM   [Ignore Me] #37
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Originally Posted by Derfud
Well obviously they arent just blowing themselves up for the sake of it. They are doing it for a cause, in this case, attempting to counter Israeli take-over of their lands. If the israelis stopped, they would have no reason to keep killing themselves.
its Jihad, even if Israel did give Palestine EVERYTHING they wanted, it wouldnt solve anything because Radical Islam. If we give into everyones demands it wont solve anything. Thats called Appeasement, you cant let the radical powers win. Neville Chamberlin did that back in 1939, he let Hitler talk his way into invading two countries with no consequences until Poland. They dont believe in the holy land anymore, Radical Islam believes that if you kill an Israeli or a Westerner you will go to Heaven and this 79 Virigins bullshit.
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Old 2004-06-29, 01:35 AM   [Ignore Me] #38
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Apparently you guys are unaware of the numerous Palestinean children that have been killed by Israli's soliders.

Israli's are destroying countless Palestinian homes without care if there are people inside them or not.

Countless children have been shot by Israli soldiers.

Countless children have been killed by Israli missles.

The Palestinians are trying to hold on to what land they have left. Thats why they fight. They want Israli's to stop invading thier land and to stop destroying thier homes.

They want Israli's to stop building up settlements in thier territory.

You guys accuse Palestinians of being terrorists simply because of their methods they use to combat the Isralis. They blow themselves up because they do not have any other way to fight the Isralis.

its Jihad, even if Israel did give Palestine EVERYTHING they wanted, it wouldnt solve anything because Radical Islam. If we give into everyones demands it wont solve anything. Thats called Appeasement, you cant let the radical powers win. Neville Chamberlin did that back in 1939, he let Hitler talk his way into invading two countries with no consequences until Poland. They dont believe in the holy land anymore, Radical Islam believes that if you kill an Israeli or a Westerner you will go to Heaven and this 79 Virigins bullshit.
Hey buddy! The Palestinians have no intentions of taking over the world.
They want to live in thier land in peace without fear of Israli soldiers and tanks rolling in.
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Old 2004-06-29, 01:40 AM   [Ignore Me] #39
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Originally Posted by I Hate Pants
Hey buddy! The Palestinians have no intentions of taking over the world.
They want to live in thier land in peace without fear of Israli soldiers and tanks rolling in.
So then why dont they negotiate with Israel?
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Old 2004-06-29, 01:41 AM   [Ignore Me] #40
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Originally Posted by Biohazzard56
So then why dont they negotiate with Israel?
They have tried! Numerous times!

What the fuck do you think Collin Powell is doing in the Israli, Palestinian area as of lately?
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Old 2004-06-29, 01:43 AM   [Ignore Me] #41
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Originally Posted by I Hate Pants
They have tried! Numerous times!
Its never worked. Both sides wont agree, something drastic needs to be done in the near future.
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Old 2004-06-29, 01:44 AM   [Ignore Me] #42
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What do you think Yasser Arafat was doing?
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Old 2004-06-29, 01:47 AM   [Ignore Me] #43
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Originally Posted by Biohazzard56
Its never worked. Both sides wont agree, something drastic needs to be done in the near future.
No shit buddy. Sorry, but these kinda things aren't settled over night.

I would love to see the Isralis and Palestinians come to an agreement too though ASAP.

Killing all Palestinians is not the answer. As most of the world will isolate itself from Israil if they ever do such a thing and it would only enrage the Middle-East and encourage to fight harder and stronger against the Isralis. And thats not what we want ofcourse.
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Old 2004-06-29, 02:29 AM   [Ignore Me] #44
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Stereotypes are
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But really fucking
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Old 2004-06-29, 03:09 AM   [Ignore Me] #45
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SDM, thats not funny.

i blame palestine, however, i dont blame the government, i blame the clerics. the goverment is a figure head, the clerics are in charge, as i stated above, about a year ago they were in peace talks, no killing for about a week or so, which is much longer than normal, and what happened? a suicide bomber blew up a bus, what did israil do? launch a few missiles in retaliation. now, the only way i see this ending, is either a massive war in which most of the middle east will be involved, or some serious peace talks, which wont be able to do a damned thing because some fucktard is gonna blow up a bus full of kids going to school.
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