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Old 2004-08-09, 03:38 PM   [Ignore Me] #31
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Originally Posted by Octavian
Don't wait for the apology, just run over the president/manager of PSR and make it look like another accident.
I should hope it was an accident PSU has welcome PSR with open arms
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Old 2004-08-09, 03:38 PM   [Ignore Me] #32
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Originally Posted by JetRaiden
I dont like it when people go to IRC but not the forums. its like eating pancakes without syrup.
You do realize you described yourself but in reverse. You hardly ever come in IRC.
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Old 2004-08-09, 03:42 PM   [Ignore Me] #33
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Originally Posted by Ivan
You do realize you described yourself but in reverse. You hardly ever come in IRC.
So that like eating syrup without the pancakes?
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Old 2004-08-09, 03:45 PM   [Ignore Me] #34
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or going to columbia without smuggling something
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Old 2004-08-09, 04:19 PM   [Ignore Me] #35
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Originally Posted by Ivan
You do realize you described yourself but in reverse. You hardly ever come in IRC.
I always thought of IRC as an optional supplement, like having banana slices in frosted flakes. but whatever, I guess I should come by more.
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Old 2004-08-09, 04:20 PM   [Ignore Me] #36
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I whored IRC before the forums.
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Old 2004-08-09, 04:39 PM   [Ignore Me] #37
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Originally Posted by NoSurrender
or going to columbia without smuggling something
Or smuggling drugs into Columbia.

And I think jen was in irc before forums.
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Old 2004-08-09, 04:46 PM   [Ignore Me] #38
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Originally Posted by AztecWarrior
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TASTES LIEK EYES ?_?

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Old 2004-08-09, 06:03 PM   [Ignore Me] #39
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Right, here's the official response.

Since Hezzy has put forward his side of the story, I think it's only fair that we put forward ours. People can then decide who to believe.

First the 'On-Air' incident. Hezzy is mistaken in his belief that he was 'told' to change his name. According to Delta and those in the channel at the time, Hezzy was asked to change his name because it would confuse listeners. Those with the On-Air tag get sent requests and that meant that requests might not reach their intended destination. He was asked to change, politely, he did not. He was then kicked by Delta, who then apologized, as did HopesDespair for as they put it 'over-reacting'. Hezzy left of his own accord a little later on.

Secondly, the advertising. When PSR was first set up, we took great care to avoid stepping on AGN's toes. I knew for a fact that we'd receive flak for being a radio station, based upon the mistake belief that each MMO is only allowed a single internet radio station. However we carried on anyway, because we wanted to do it. I personally have been doing both Shoutcast and real radio-waves stuff for the last 3 years and wanted to get back on the air and have some fun. I spoke to Marsman at length to make sure we weren't treading on anyone's toes and that we could co-exist peacefully. As regards to competing with AGN, we even offered to relay the Ask the Devs and Community Night to save them bandwidth and allow our listeners to tune in to the great programming with ease. We have nothing but respect for the work of Hamma, Marsman and all the PSU staff and we've made that blindingly clear on several occassions.
However.. since we don't advertise in #agn out of respect for AGN, we would expect others to afford us the same courtesy. #PSR is our channel and it's sole purpose is for discussion of PSR programming. Advertising other streams in there, whatever they might be is not on. We have permission to advertise in the PSU channel, as long as we keep it in sensible moderation, which we do at all times. While Hope should have given Hezzy a warning before banning him, which as far as I'm aware he didn't do, the fact remains that Hezzy was advertising in our channel. No-one was forcing him to be in there and the op in question did what he felt was appropriate in the situation. I am not going to apologize for that ops actions, if he wishes to do so then he can, but I won't speak for him.

Now we comes to the bit that kinda narked me off a little, these 'PSR thinks they own the place' comments. Tagging up with PSR- does not constitute owning the place and it never will. I have never once seen any PSR team-member make any comments to this effect and I hope I never will. If they do, please report them to me and I'll deal with them. Until that time though, this sort of stuff is just baseless muck-spreading. It was predictable that we'd have some anti-PSR people, it always happens. The fact however remains, we're enjoying doing it and the listeners are enjoying listening to it so we aren't going to stop doing it any time soon.

As Ivan mentioned, PSU-IRC was intended for use by the Planetside community. Since we all play Planetside and set up this station to entertain the Planetside community, I believe we have just as much right to be on PSU-IRC as everyone else does. There is no 'You must post on the forums' requirement in order to use PSU-IRC and if you believe we've broken some network rule then you should have taken it up with Hamma. Otherwise, muck-spreading on the forums is simply childish, as is turning what was a minor incident, into your own personal crusade which not only contained inaccurate descriptions of the incident, but also contained some baseless assertions and downright fallacies which border on defammation. We are not out to piss off anyone, tread on anyone's toes or assert ownership of anyone or anything. This whole unfortunate incident was a molehill that's been blown into a mountain and quite frankly I find it immature, unreasonable and irresponsible, as was the trolling, spamming and insults which followed my attempted conversation with Hezzy. I would appreciate it if those responsible (who were handily enough disguised behind pseudonoms) would stay out of #PSR in teh future, since you are not interested in the station and we're not interested in you.

Thanks for your time.

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Old 2004-08-09, 06:07 PM   [Ignore Me] #40
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Heh, nice responce there
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Old 2004-08-09, 06:09 PM   [Ignore Me] #41
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Old 2004-08-09, 06:13 PM   [Ignore Me] #42
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Old 2004-08-09, 06:23 PM   [Ignore Me] #43
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I think this thing has been blown way out of proportion, and needs to end.

Forgive and forget... move on with life.

And now for something completely different�

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Old 2004-08-09, 06:57 PM   [Ignore Me] #44
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Let me make a quick comment here. When PSR started they talked to Marsman and we all agree'd that it was not a problem for PSR to be around. I for one applaud the community activities that anyone does.

When I started PSU back around 2 years ago there was a wonderful (not) community called PlanetSide.info who wanted nothing to do with me or my site. I tried and tried to become a member of their "click" to make PSU popular but it never worked out. In the end I ended up working with Sony and creating our own identity.

Now that PSU is the big site in town I do not want other starting out to suffer the same fate that I did. Everyone is welcome here at PSU and I pride myself on that. If not for this community starting up, I would not be here.

Let's be accepting of new things, not push them away.,
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Old 2004-08-09, 06:58 PM   [Ignore Me] #45
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Never Mind, I obviously have no clue whats going on. I edited my post. I was on vacation I dont know what a PSR is.

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