Sniping....rehashed... - Page 3

DaRB · 2003-02-28, 07:15 AM

i've been a fps sniper for alot of years, and the thing to do, is not get found, so regardless of whether or not your weapon has a trail on it or not, usually you have to be REALLY effective for someone, or a few even, to come looking for you, so if you suck, snipe w/ whatever you want, if you dont, make sure you can melee just as good, unless you have a tank sitting behind you....

Subliminal · 2003-02-28, 11:53 AM

does anyone know how fast the weapon swap speed is? If its fast you can smack someone with a bolt driver then follow up with a gauss if you get rushed or something.

Subliminal · 2003-02-28, 11:53 AM

does anyone know how fast the weapon swap speed is? If its fast you can smack someone with a bolt driver then follow up with a gauss if you get rushed or something.

OmnipotentKiwi · 2003-02-28, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by Subliminal
does anyone know how fast the weapon swap speed is? If its fast you can smack someone with a bolt driver then follow up with a gauss if you get rushed or something.

I would guess a few seconds. Just think of an animation with you putting your gun away, and then pulling out another.

Chanfan · 2003-02-28, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by Subliminal
does anyone know how fast the weapon swap speed is? If its fast you can smack someone with a bolt driver then follow up with a gauss if you get rushed or something.

This is was I was thinking about as well. I don't recall off the top of my head what a sniper's carry limits are likely to be, but I'm sure it will be limited by that.

However, I also recall in Tribes, the tactic of lining up a disk on someone facing the other way, firing it, switching to the sniper rifle, and hitting them just as the disk impacts. This allowed you to take out folks you couldn't one shot with the sniper rifle.

That makes me wonder if the same thing will work in this game. Even if you can't carry the appropriate weapons yourself, you could team up with someone, or just watch for incoming slow rounds on a target of opportunity.

And sniper teams will still be quite interesting. I was just flipping channels the other night, and saw a bit on RL sniper teams coordinating attacks on a patrol.

If you got a well coordinated team, look out - you could take out that wave of lightly armored folks, team up by twos to take out a group of mediums, or have everyone take on that anti-air MAX, to make way for the air attack and landing.

Of course, such coordination would take lots of training and practice to be really effective, which is not likely for most pub type players. A sniper team clan, tho' - <shudder>

OmnipotentKiwi · 2003-02-28, 01:24 PM

Originally posted by Chanfan
This is was I was thinking about as well. I don't recall off the top of my head what a sniper's carry limits are likely to be, but I'm sure it will be limited by that.

The carry limit is based on the armor. The common ground sniper will probably be in reinforced armor which allows them to carry two rifle items.

However, they may be in Agile armor so they can pilot/drive all vehicles at well. If that is the case, then they can only have one rifle item.

Nightmare · 2003-02-28, 01:38 PM

Thank God that infiltration suits have no rifle carrying abilities, otherwise we'd have invisible snipers taking out hordes of people.

DaRB · 2003-02-28, 01:41 PM

yes, DAMN the man!!!!

Headrattle · 2003-02-28, 01:47 PM

Raven said

In the second pic that Headrattle posted one of the devs says in the chatbox "I miss my crosshairs" I don't see any crosshairs in there, so perhaps they eliminated them and only have a COF now on some guns?

Well, They are pretty close to crosshairs. Those four dots in the middle (while they don't "cross") don't move. Much better then that circle at least. My CS Crosshairs don't cross either.
Reguardless, That pic was taken on the 20th of febuary.

SandTrout · 2003-02-28, 04:37 PM

The dots in the center of the reticile(sp?) are not a crohair. A crosshair does cross, and in most games is supposed to represent the exact place where your bullet should hit.

All weapons in PS use a Cone-of-Fire reticile that has no 100% impact point.

Nepmit · 2003-03-01, 12:15 PM

cs sucks dude. never compare it with something like planetside.

RageMaster · 2003-03-01, 12:33 PM

Just a thought...

The advanced targetting implant gives you a better zoom, sure, but I doubt it would affect your weapons firing cone.

The gauss rifle probabally has a wide enough cone (while stationary / ducking) for it not to be effective at long range, so even if you can see a target in the distance, regardless of your own mouse accuracy and twitch, the firing cone would disallow pinpoint accuracy.

The bolt driver (as per a "shaky-cam" movie I've seen), has an uber-narrow firing cone while stationary, which would allow firing accurately over long distances.

The point being, you may be able to see an enemy clearly with a 12x zoom, but supreme accuracy over distance is ONLY given by the bolt-driver.

Combined with the previously mentioned fact that projectiles from some weapons might "die" before reaching a target at long distances, the bolt-driver seems like the only weapon capable of effective sniping. It will be the staple sniper weapon.

-RageMaster

Nepmit · 2003-03-01, 07:31 PM

like its said bolt driver is the best sniper rifle but a sniper could always have a gauss rifle att the side or something to finish the target of.. if hes not in a sniper squad that do organized sniping

Spy · 2003-03-02, 12:03 AM

The whole point of the bolt driver is to be a sniper, if all of the guns had the power and range as the bolt driver with anywhere near the accuracy the bolt driver would be useless. I doubt i will see anyone sniping with anything other then the bolt driver. To me, it sounds like the range the sniper will be using will be extremely far away, out of realistic hit time range, unless the target is standing still, and looking to be killed. Does that make any sence at all? or am i rambling

Sando138 · 2003-03-02, 12:03 AM

the bolt driver will be the bane of infantry and the horsefly of vehicles (you don't like getting bitten but it doesnt hurt you too much.). simplest plan of attack for a sniper: get somewhere and wait. one shot is all you get before you are compromized and are being avoided. your best bet is to hit with the biggest, baddest gun, in this case the bolt driver. if you miss, shift positions and hope for better luck. if it comes to a melee unless you have an ace-in-the-hole secondary and a helluva lot of grenades, you are so screwed it hurts.