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Old 2011-07-11, 12:13 PM   [Ignore Me] #31
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Brilliant update!

Head shots; wanted since day one
Location vehicle damage; wanted since day one
Spawning in Galaxy's; suggested in my upgrade project
Tagging targets: suggested in my upgrade project after playing Republic Commando and Brothers in Arms
Customisable outfit skins; suggested in my upgrade project

Needless to say, I'm a happy man.

I honestly do not understand why people are frustrated with head shots; PS is pretty much the only FPS from the past 15 years without them! If anything populations will suffer if they are not included; its an established FPS game play mechanic that rewards skill and is expected of ANY FPS!

Sure you will have people building aimbots to try and abuse the system, but you get hackers and cheaters anyway (COF hack, speed boost, etc); with an MMO you can ban their account, just like on Steam.
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Old 2011-07-11, 12:14 PM   [Ignore Me] #32
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Originally Posted by LZachariah View Post
I think that they will be able to deal with headshots appropriately. Obviously, only time will tell, but I think that there will be a gradient of how much bonus damage is dealt. For instance, Agile and Standard Armor could be 1-hit kills if you score a headshot (because the helmet is lighter and the face is exposed) but reinforced exo-armor might take a few headshots (which is EXTREMELY hard to pull off) and MAX's might not be vulnerable to headshots at all (except, perhaps, from Anti-Tank weapons). Yes, if you can strike a Burster in the faceplate with a Lancer, that SOUNDS to me like a one-hit kill. I doubt people will succeed at this feat very often.

Just my thoughts. Matt? Am I kind of on track with this?

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Wonder how Lashers are going to work then? Auto-crit when within 5m of targets' head?
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Old 2011-07-11, 12:15 PM   [Ignore Me] #33
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i think a compromise is bonus damage, but not instant kill.
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Old 2011-07-11, 12:15 PM   [Ignore Me] #34
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Yeah they're going to need to reevalute this headshot thing. The polls we had in the headshot thread don't lie. Could just be us veterans though, but the idea of even 133 enemies firing is a lot of bullets and you get hit a lot. But... you survive because a few randomly placed shots doesn't kill. With the faster TTK and now headshots I fear medics will only be used to revive. Then again that might be the new idea. I guess we'll see.
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Old 2011-07-11, 12:16 PM   [Ignore Me] #35
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Originally Posted by Volw View Post
Wonder how Lashers are going to work then? Auto-crit when within 5m of targets' head?
One moment SOE said the current HA weapons are getting scrapped, but then there was mention of a minigun. Granted a minigun is a generic gun, so any empire could get one or even be a common pool weapon.
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Old 2011-07-11, 12:17 PM   [Ignore Me] #36
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Originally Posted by moosepoop View Post
one shot kill infantry combat in planetside 2 will be utterly unplayable.

at times of high lag it will turn into spawn, spend 5 minutes getting ready to battle field, instant death, repeat. a ver frustrating experience.

for 1000 man battles you are going to have lag, period. there has to be high hp low damage infantry combat to prevent surprise lag kill.

one thing i love in planetside 1 is aimbots are completely useless. adding powerful headshots are going to change all that.
We might as well just dispose of the aiming altogether. Replace it with where you select a target and instead of pressing the left mouse button to shoot, you can just hit a skill on the hot key bar.
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Old 2011-07-11, 12:17 PM   [Ignore Me] #37
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Originally Posted by artifice View Post
Matt, don't listen to the whiners. Put in one shot kill headshots. I think some of these people would rather not aim at all. They can just look at each other and press the left mouse button until one of them runs out of health.
I'd be able to spray and pray with a Jackhammer not even be aiming at your head and get a headshot. While it'd be funny to me, it would also make the game shit.
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Old 2011-07-11, 12:18 PM   [Ignore Me] #38
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One moment SOE said the current HA weapons are getting scrapped, but then there was mention of a minigun. Granted a minigun is a generic gun, so any empire could get one or even be a common pool weapon.
Ah, good news then. Always had a locker full of TR/VS weapons as I could not stand Jackhammer.

Vanu will have to learn to aim then? ;-)
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Old 2011-07-11, 12:19 PM   [Ignore Me] #39
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Ah, good news then. Always had a locker full of TR/VS weapons as I could not stand Jackhammer.

Vanu will have to learn to aim then? ;-)
Thankfully yes.
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Old 2011-07-11, 12:20 PM   [Ignore Me] #40
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Originally Posted by NCLynx View Post
I'd be able to spray and pray with a Jackhammer not even be aiming at your head and get a headshot. While it'd be funny to me, it would also make the game shit.
I never said every weapon should instantly kill. Damage should be something like double. So if it takes two hits from a sniper rifle to kill you, it only takes one. Other weapons get advantage for hitting the head, but aren't instant kills unless they are some heavy duty weapon that is hard to aim to begin with.
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Old 2011-07-11, 12:23 PM   [Ignore Me] #41
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We might as well just dispose of the aiming altogether. Replace it with where you select a target and instead of pressing the left mouse button to shoot, you can just hit a skill on the hot key bar.
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I never said every weapon should instantly kill. Damage should be something like double. So if it takes two hits from a sniper rifle to kill you, it only takes one. Other weapons get advantage for hitting the head, but aren't instant kills unless they are some heavy duty weapon that is hard to aim to begin with.
That is the problem.... One shot head shot with sniper rifle..... Ever heard of no scoping? I can see the ..... No cross hairs argument but, all it takes is a dry erase marker to fix that, or stickers. Sounds fun... Instead of HA indoors we will have sniper rifles
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Old 2011-07-11, 12:24 PM   [Ignore Me] #42
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That is the problem.... One shot head shot with sniper rifle..... Ever heard of no scoping? I can see the ..... No cross hairs argument but, all it takes is a dry erase marker to fix that, or stickers. Sounds fun... Instead of HA indoors we will have sniper rifles
Heck, you get one for free with the NVidia 3D package... Just hit a key combo and it draws a crosshair on your screen.
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Old 2011-07-11, 12:26 PM   [Ignore Me] #43
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Originally Posted by moosepoop View Post
i think a compromise is bonus damage, but not instant kill.
I like this as a compromise. Bonus damage I'm ok with. With recoil and such it gives those of us that dont have the skill/twitch a chance. If someone is that much better than me do I deserve to win one on one? No. but if aiming for just my head makes the margin for error higher then I'm all for it. I always have a chance and thats all I want.. I dont want to die constantly just because someone can fire ONE shot faster and more accurately than I can.

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Old 2011-07-11, 12:27 PM   [Ignore Me] #44
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I can see the future!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5SXF...tailpage#t=15s
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Old 2011-07-11, 12:27 PM   [Ignore Me] #45
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Originally Posted by Kouza View Post
That is the problem.... One shot head shot with sniper rifle..... Ever heard of no scoping? I can see the ..... No cross hairs argument but, all it takes is a dry erase marker to fix that, or stickers. Sounds fun... Instead of HA indoors we will have sniper rifles
I don't think a marker or sticker is going to exactly work. Seeing as this isn't Doom.

You could also not only not have crosshairs, but it could fire more erratically without using the scope.
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