Reaver a two seater now? - Page 3

Traak · 2011-07-15, 02:39 AM

Originally Posted by Bags

You know what else reduces "Reaver whoring"? Actually balancing the damn thing.

This.

CutterJohn · 2011-07-15, 02:46 AM

Originally Posted by SKYeXile

no, no i do not, i dont know why you would want to bring back something that takes no skill into a system that they claim now takes more skill.

Missiles in PS1 could not be dodged. Missiles in PS2, with flight fizziks of their own... who can say?

Flight physics and flares/decoys would make missile use far more interesting than it is in PS1.

That said, I do agree that lock on stuff is in general less enjoyable. Sometimes I really don't care that its sci fi.. As a self confessed AA whore, I'd greatly prefer flak or a ridiculous amount of bullets over missiles.

Tool · 2011-07-15, 02:55 AM

Originally Posted by SKYeXile

oh KOTOR LOL, I'm alittle hazey on my history here, but after failing to adapt on the fly in outfit wars to another outfit going defensive on you, didn't you guys cry on the forums because you lost or drew or something and had the whole tourniment canceled? Loving the irony.

Yeah...perhaps you should enroll yourself for a history lesson as you display textbook ignorance. The question mark there is just icing on the cake. You've dragged me into derailing this thread long enough. and continually displayed your minor capacity to discuss without going off on tangents.

Try to discuss things and consistantly see this from posters who strongly disagree with elements that are hardly explained yet, attacking any form of reasoning given as logic for the change made. We get it, you liked things a certain way. Its time to grow up and see you can't get eveything you want in PS2.

Could you now start your discussions with "I don't like X because..." Satan forbid we try keep things civil and reasoned even on a gaming forum.

SKYeXile · 2011-07-15, 04:16 AM

Originally Posted by CutterJohn

Missiles in PS1 could not be dodged. Missiles in PS2, with flight fizziks of their own... who can say?

Flight physics and flares/decoys would make missile use far more interesting than it is in PS1.

That said, I do agree that lock on stuff is in general less enjoyable. Sometimes I really don't care that its sci fi.. As a self confessed AA whore, I'd greatly prefer flak or a ridiculous amount of bullets over missiles.

Sorry should have put /sarscam at the end of that one.

With a more agile flight model and like you say missiles with physics, it could work. then there might be some sort of chance like you say to evade missiles. But like I say, i do hope they stick to their promise and have aircraft and specificity air to air encounters require more skill. Hopefully we will see the end of the boring turret fest PS1 is or has become?... I seemed to remember it as something grander in the past.

Redshift · 2011-07-15, 08:12 AM

I'd give the driver 2x20 mm recoiless like it already had, and control of a set of chaff countermeasures (able to loose maybe half of the AA fired from a MAX in one go, assuming it's not stationary)

I'd give the gunner the AV rocket pods as a turret(and make them take over a clip to kill an rexo)
I'd also give the gunner a 20 mm recoiless like the rear gunner of the lib (mounted underneath to give full motion from rear to front), for getting skeeters off of you and for AI if needed

Will survive ok against AA then but get taken apart by skeeters

CutterJohn · 2011-07-15, 10:05 AM

I don't see why the gunner would have to be so gimped vs infantry. Seems a bit out of spite, that.

Plus infantry will have AA options now anyway. They won't be so defenseless vs air.

Robert089 · 2011-07-15, 10:16 AM

That's a shame, I was looking forward to a 2 man gunship sort of vehicle.

Redshift · 2011-07-15, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by CutterJohn

I don't see why the gunner would have to be so gimped vs infantry. Seems a bit out of spite, that.

Plus infantry will have AA options now anyway. They won't be so defenseless vs air.

20 mm recoiless has a faster ttk than rockets, plus you actually have to aim it, plus it's not supposed to be an AV weapon like the rockets.....

kaffis · 2011-07-15, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by Bags

You know what else reduces "Reaver whoring"? Actually balancing the damn thing.

And now, flight physics should greatly facilitate doing so.

kaffis · 2011-07-15, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by Robert089

That's a shame, I was looking forward to a 2 man gunship sort of vehicle.

Perhaps there'll be a Liberator variant/modifications that could serve?

p0intman · 2011-07-15, 12:56 PM

You know what would be awesome to balance it all? Having to maintain an airspeed to keep in the air, and shoot.

oh.. wait a sec...

Skorne · 2011-07-15, 01:43 PM

Slight off topic but did anyone else notice in the video the squadron of aircraft has what looks like 2 empty weapon mounts under each wing? I wonder if you will get to choose a loadout for say air to air or air to ground, that would be sweet.

Hamma · 2011-07-15, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by kaffis

Perhaps there'll be a Liberator variant/modifications that could serve?

There will be a gunship varient of the Liberator.

/back on topic..

Kurtz · 2011-07-15, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by Was_Ash_Emerald

Who wants to sit behind me?

I promise not to play Highway to the Dangerzone.

Seriously, any conjectures yet on how it might work?

Ha! looks like the Devs specifically targeted you for a nerf. Smed must have been in one of those Sunderers you nuked. Good to see you back.

Was_Ash_Emerald · 2011-07-15, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by Kurtz

Ha! looks like the Devs specifically targeted you for a nerf. Smed must have been in one of those Sunderers you nuked. Good to see you back.

ya, I remember you.

Hopefully the new client works right with speed step processors now so you don't fire at 10x normal rate.