Gamestop "PlanetSide 2 Cancelled"? - Page 3

Raymac · 2011-12-14, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by ThGlump

Yea every company say they have good cheat protection, but i still have to see one thats actually effective. PS2 as a fps will attract cheaters, and as there wont be any real consequences there will be tons of it.
And its not only cheaters. Grievers is another thing. If you kill somebody be prepared to be TKed by his alt as a punishment (again with no consequences)

You remind me of those people that refuse to drive because car crashes are inevitable. No system is going to be perfect, but they've already made it clear that something as gamebreaking as this is being addressed.

I know it's a big scarey world out there, but it will be ok.

ThGlump · 2011-12-14, 07:03 PM

F2P = Letting everyone drive without driving license, and without any repressions for breaking rules, so there will be more ppl on road for increased cas sales. Yea you are probably right. I would refuse to drive if that would happen

Zulthus · 2011-12-14, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by ThGlump

F2P = Letting everyone drive without driving license, and without any repressions for breaking rules, so there will be more ppl on road for increased cas sales. Yea you are probably right. I would refuse to drive if that would happen

This is a good point.

basti · 2011-12-14, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by FastAndFree

I hope PS2 won't be on Steam, because then I would be unable to install it on my SSD

Having it on steam does not mean you are forced to use steam. You can still use the usual Station Launcher.

Traak · 2011-12-14, 08:56 PM

I wonder just how far ahead you can reach by plunking down the maximum amount of cash?

And I wonder what that amount is?

Raymac · 2011-12-14, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by ThGlump

F2P = Letting everyone drive without driving license, and without any repressions for breaking rules, so there will be more ppl on road for increased cas sales. Yea you are probably right. I would refuse to drive if that would happen

OMG!! F2P?? Armageddon is upon us!! Run for the hills!! Women and children first!!

That's you. That's what you sound like.

If you are terrified of f2p, I've got news for you buddy. That train has left the station, so you are just going to either give up on playing mmos or just deal with it. More and more games are switching to f2p all the time.

So, you can either panic, or take a look around at the huge amount of f2p games already out there and realize the sky isn't falling.

Marth Koopa · 2011-12-14, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by Redshift

Steam pisses a lot of people off though

Wait, what? Did I fall back in time to 2003?

Graywolves · 2011-12-14, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by ThGlump

F2P = Letting everyone drive without driving license, and without any repressions for breaking rules, so there will be more ppl on road for increased cas sales. Yea you are probably right. I would refuse to drive if that would happen

If they removed loans and installment plans, it would balance out.

Also....off topic....I don't understand why we don't just put the bumper car stuff around all of our automobiles.....

Sifer2 · 2011-12-14, 09:20 PM

So its completely F2P? Just IMO but this is bad news. This means they literally get no revenue from this game unless a lot of people buy crap from the shop. Which means you can kiss it being cosmetics only goodbye. It wont be enough I guarantee. Power will be sold if necessary to pay the bills.

And then there is the hacking. Completely free means no penalty for hacking. So what if they catch you an ban you. Make new account an continue to hack for epic lulz. I pray to god that AT LEAST a valid credit card is required for making an account.

I think during the next Q&A we need to ask them to lay out some of this stuff for discussion. I think this could ruin the game worse than any killcams, or faster TTK's will. They have a good product as far as I can see. I think it can and should be sold in a box for the additional exposure and because it will sell. Don't rely on the shop alone an then have to make the game pay 2 win a few months in.

Xyntech · 2011-12-14, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by Sifer2

So its completely F2P? Just IMO but this is bad news. This means they literally get no revenue from this game unless a lot of people buy crap from the shop. Which means you can kiss it being cosmetics only goodbye. It wont be enough I guarantee. Power will be sold if necessary to pay the bills.

And then there is the hacking. Completely free means no penalty for hacking. So what if they catch you an ban you. Make new account an continue to hack for epic lulz. I pray to god that AT LEAST a valid credit card is required for making an account.

I think during the next Q&A we need to ask them to lay out some of this stuff for discussion. I think this could ruin the game worse than any killcams, or faster TTK's will. They have a good product as far as I can see. I think it can and should be sold in a box for the additional exposure and because it will sell. Don't rely on the shop alone an then have to make the game pay 2 win a few months in.

This has been discussed extensively. F2P (completely F2P) has proven highly effective as a means of supporting games.

With F2P, you end up having a huge percentage of players who never spend a single penny. Then you have another big chunk of players who only ever buy a couple of things, ever. Then you start getting into the few percentage points of players who buy several things a month. Not an insane amount of money, but it adds up. Lastly you have the tiny fraction of Mr. Moneybags, who buy every single thing in the shop, then buy a ton of stuff for their friends and guilds/clans/outfits.

Add em all up and somehow you have more revenue than a lot of subscription based games.

As for selling power, that depends on your definition. Higby has already confirmed that players will be able to purchase certain weapons in the shop. If you consider that to be selling power, even if you can earn those guns and even if they aren't overpowered, then I'm afraid you are out of luck, because PS2 will absolutely be selling power based on that definition.

Considering that all of the variants in the game are sidegrades and that you will be able to unlock the vast majority, if not all of the variants through skill tree advancement and/or random drops, I don't consider it selling power at all. Selling convenience and shortcuts maybe. Power, no.

Zulthus · 2011-12-14, 10:02 PM

I'm personally just curious of how weapons are going to 'drop'. I sure hope it isn't loot from AI or chests.

Xyntech · 2011-12-14, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by Zulthus

I'm personally just curious of how weapons are going to 'drop'. I sure hope it isn't loot from AI or chests.

Someone mentioned having arbitrary ammo pickups, that replenish a little ammo for any weapon, dropping from dead enemies, with weapon drops happening occasionally as well. I would imagine he's pretty close to accurate. Much of anything else would be pretty lame.

Zulthus · 2011-12-14, 10:34 PM

Well, I think that would be fine, but the player should always drop the weapon he's carrying. If a players you killed had a 1/4th chance to drop a Jackhammer of Accuracy when he's holding a Gauss, that doesn't sound like something that would work. Which is kind of what I'm getting from that.

Tide · 2011-12-14, 11:24 PM

just wondering if i'm crazy or not because i've been contacted by gamestop automated message system, saying that "the game's production has been canceled", or something along those lines. "please show up to use your store credit towards something else.... blah blah"

Going into gamestop to figure out what the hell that was about tomorrow, but has anyone heard anything similar to this?

Zulthus · 2011-12-14, 11:27 PM

Bro, there's already a thread on this with the same title.

http://www.planetside-universe.com/f...ad.php?t=38237