News: Participate in Outfit Spotlight! - Page 3

Dart · 2012-03-22, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by Skitrel

Hmm, fair enough, that's groovy. We're allowed to disagree. I feel like the vets and the folks in power should always help foster the new and in fact have a responsibility to. You don't, that's ok.

On outfit highlights, I think it's a great idea, and there's lots of different quirks that are enjoyable and can be highlighted nicely. The roleplay elements of what the outfits are about and why they came to be I always find particularly interesting. People go into a lot of detail to fit their outfits into the Planetside lore and give them stories.

Cool, and I think we're beginning to understand each other better. I do believe that new we all have a responsibility to help and encourage new players. I just don't see why it has to be at the expense of existing ones - this doesn't seem like an either/or type of issue. I'm also not sure it's in the best interests of new players for them to be put in new clans. I think if I was starting over fresh in PS2 I'd probably like to have a proven and experienced group of PlanetSide players around me to help me through the learning curve. Of course, that's my own particular choice - but that's what I'm really advocating here... Choice. Over any kind of bias.

And regarding the lore of particular Outfits, I completely agree. I guess it brings out my inner geek; and I too think it's cool to hear about the backstory and narrative of different Outfits. In Delta Triad we used to have a member, Guru, who penned a series of PlanetSide Fan Fiction stories, involving many prominent PS players which were very well received. He did take some flak for them and I can't claim I read every one but there are definitely people who enjoy that sort of thing.

acosmo · 2012-03-22, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by Dart

I think if I was starting over fresh in PS2 I'd probably like to have a proven and experienced group of PlanetSide players around me to help me through the learning curve.

at that point it's not like a game anymore though. it's like being the new guy in an infantry unit that will never be able to participate in society again. you won't be accepted and you'll probably be fragged. because this is a video-game, fragged repeatedly

The Desert Fox · 2012-03-22, 10:29 AM

So much disagreement, BWC WHOOOOO

robocpf1 · 2012-03-22, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by acosmo

I agree with skitrel on this one. Outfit spotlights should go to the lesser known clans, and most likely will seeing as larger and more established outfits do not need them (and will have little reason to put interest towards such competition). It's kind of disappointing to see how criticism is handled here though.

Originally Posted by Dart

I think you're being rather short-sighted. Why would robo for instance, not want to encourage gamers who've never played PS1, to visit the Ghosts of the Revolution website?

I applied for a spotlight last night as soon as I realized it was available, and I imagine there are other large outfit leaders working on their apps right now, if they haven't already sent them in. I can't imagine there's a single large outfit leader that wouldn't want to have this for their outfit unless they aren't openly recruiting at the moment.

There can be no limit to the amount of venues in which we want to publicize our outfit - it is a vain thing to say "No, we don't want to really publicize anymore, we think we're big enough and so well established that our record speaks for itself and people will flock to us".

Large outfits get recruits in several ways - either by trying to recruit every No Outfit person they see, every day, every week, or by mass publicity to try to get people to come and join on their own. Or both in some cases. There is never enough publicity, for me. There are never enough recruits, there is never a strategy I would not want to pursue in order to make my outfit a larger, more solid group of gamers. Someone in the Enclave thread made a good point - yes, you get the "chaff" when you recruit this way, so to speak. But when the chaff falls away, you're left with a solid group of like-minded players that are a joy to play with.

I can't speak for every large outfit leader, but I for one am excited and glad PSU is offering us this opportunity. I think the smaller outfits will perhaps benefit MORE, because you're right, they have less established names and such, and this is a great way to spread the word. But large outfits will still benefit - anything that gets another recruit was worth it. PS2 will have clans coming in that never played PS1 but want to make a bang, and it will be stiff competition in recruitment. No large outfit can afford to pass up opportunities like these. Again, my humble opinion - but one I'm sticking to.

Hamma · 2012-03-22, 10:47 AM

Thanks robocpf!

And if your outfits aren't picked the first time it doesn't mean they won't come up next time. We intend to do this a bunch of times not just once.

Dart · 2012-03-22, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by Hamma

Thanks robocpf!

And if your outfits aren't picked the first time it doesn't mean they won't come up next time. We intend to do this a bunch of times not just once.

For the record, in case my vociferous support wasn't an indicator - like robo, I think this is an excellent idea. The more information this community has the better. It'll also be fun to read about the various Outfits (both familiar and unfamiliar). Keep up the good work Hamma.

Eyeklops · 2012-03-22, 11:24 AM

The assumption that a new player would know what outfits are "well known" is iffy at best. I agree that no outfit, large, small, popular, or unknown, should be discriminated against. I would submit my outfit, but if you know me, you would understand why that would not make sense. Rock on Hamma, great idea.

polywomple · 2012-03-22, 12:01 PM

remember when the Enclave and D2A TKd eachother? Good times.

Graywolves · 2012-03-22, 12:46 PM

Outfit spotlights will be cool to get their names out their, recognized for what they do and help other outfits discover each other.

Any argument for priority or w.e is silly. Outfit spotlight isn't welfare advertising, it's just a fun community feature.

TheRagingGerbil · 2012-03-22, 12:49 PM

I support this for all outfits, big or small, new or old. Great addition Hamma! Look for Sturmgrenadiers app.

AdmiralSurf · 2012-03-22, 01:14 PM

I think this is a great idea! I agree there will undoubtedly be some forum trolling due to this, however there are always more well-mannered folks out there than trolls. Good luck to all outfits on being selected!

sylphaen · 2012-03-22, 04:47 PM

Hamma, will an outfit listing be created from this spotlight effort ? Something like the following:
It would be useful both for new players (to find an outfit) and older players (to know who will participate in PS2).
______________

Outfit name: Example
Outfit website: www.example.com
Empire: NC
Size/Category: up to 20 / Casual

Outfit name: Example
Outfit website: www.example.com
Empire: VS
Size/Category: up to 50 / Hardcore

Outfit name: Example
Outfit website: www.example.com
Empire: TR
Size/Category: up to 20 / Hardcore

Outfit name: Example
Outfit website: www.example.com
Empire: NC
Size/Category: up to 100 / Military

Hamma · 2012-03-22, 05:01 PM

We will have an archive of the articles - what you described is more our Outfit Database that will be back at some point as well.

JediADo · 2012-03-22, 05:59 PM

At first I thought it was going to be like "Outfit Wars" and I was like, "Fuck that shit with a giant stick" But after reading it, this seems to be pretty cool.

I approve of this.

MCYRook · 2012-03-31, 07:55 AM

App sent.

Also: Ohai!