Is PS2 going to cheapen itself? - Page 3

Squiffy · 2012-06-05, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by 3zz3

You bring up some really valid points that I have been concerned about myself. When I saw the Zebra camo in one of the recent videos, it was really disappointing & my first thought was "TF2"...

I'm going to do a longer reply later today as I'm at work at the moment.

I look forward to your reply later.

Some very valid points made. As to the term "idiots", I'm sorry as this was not my intention to spark a thread labeling new players in such a derogatory way, but F2P does generate a certain amount of players that behave out of game context and generally wreck (for me) the gaming experience. I think outfit membership will be even more important in this version of Planetside.

I'm not too concerned about the dumbing down arguments. Entering such a big game requires some "leading by the hand" so missions might work well. I remember feeling completely lost when i first found Planetside and learnt the ropes by joining an Outfit that took time to explain/show new members how to get the most out of play.

I agree with the post, should gimmicky items appear, that says there would be a period of time where such items would be largely accessed and then would ebb away into nothingness, but where does that leave SOE trying to make income? I'm all for them making money, I payed a monthly subscription as we all did in PS1, and I sure as hell will be pushing cash into it to gain the certs/items that I will need to fill my role in PS2, but I'm confused as to how this model would work. (Actually, re-reading this, I'm confused as to what I am trying to say so will edit later)LOL

GhettoPrince · 2012-06-05, 08:20 AM

Tophats and monocles should never be bought with station cash.

That sounds like a badge reward. (if they do have badges or achievements)

Winfernal · 2012-06-05, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by GhettoPrince

Tophats and monocles should never be bought with station cash.

That sounds like a badge reward. (if they do have badges or achievements)

Those are reserved for TotalBiscuit

stargazer093 · 2012-06-05, 08:37 AM

Speaking of world of tanks...

Thomas · 2012-06-05, 08:53 AM

I don't think we have to fear about 'monocles' and 'hats' in PS2. This is a serious wargame, more likely the cosmetics will be cool looking visor's, new sleek helmets and amour plating that look really good and not silly.

Bluecewe · 2012-06-05, 09:07 AM

The truth is that Free2Play games generate more revenue than subscription-based games, mainly due to the fact that unless they are as successful as World of Warcraft they are simply unable to attract preferable numbers of players.

Allods Online has the perfect Free2Play model in that there are no Pay2Win elements; you can buy almost everything with real money apart from items which effect combat. Planetside 2 will be following this model, and while it will mean there will be a few somewhat silly customizations, in the end of the day it's unlikely that you will notice it.

Xaine · 2012-06-05, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by Warborn

Yeah, these developers and their dumbing down of games by trying to make it easier for new players to get into. I refuse to play Planetside 2 unless the entire thing is written is Esperanto, and every time I die my account is banned and Matt Higby comes over to my house and kicks me in the balls. I refuse to play these dumbed-down games that don't confirm be as a badass video game player because they are things which other people actually enjoy playing.

In Planetside 1 it was easy to find where the battles were. Remember the GIANT FLASHING YELLOW signs on the map, telling you where shit was going down?

Not easy enough?

Mkay.

My point is, making a system where you can look at something, click on it and have it TELEPORT you to the action because apparently its REALLY hard to look at the map and get there yourself, is dumbing the game down to a level where it honestly gets embarrassing.

You know why?

What do you do in CoD? You log on, click on something and it TELEPORTS you to where the action is. Sound familiar?

I understand why they're doing it, and i actually don't fault them for it. They need to cater for the COD kiddies who get angry when they're faced with 360' of the compass, because apparently you need to point them to the action and wipe the dribble off their chin, or they'll go to the forums and rage about how hard the game is.

So while your sarcastic, offensive reply was hilarious and deeply constructive. You just made yourself look like a cock. Don't you feel silly.

LostAlgorithm · 2012-06-05, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by Xaine

In Planetside 1 it was easy to find where the battles were. Remember the GIANT FLASHING YELLOW signs on the map, telling you where shit was going down?

Not easy enough?

Mkay.

My point is, making a system where you can look at something, click on it and have it TELEPORT you to the action because apparently its REALLY hard to look at the map and get there yourself, is dumbing the game down to a level where it honestly gets embarrassing.

You know why?

What do you do in CoD? You log on, click on something and it TELEPORTS you to where the action is. Sound familiar?

I understand why they're doing it, and i actually don't fault them for it. They need to cater for the COD kiddies who get angry when they're faced with 360' of the compass, because apparently you need to point them to the action and wipe the dribble off their chin, or they'll go to the forums and rage about how hard the game is.

So while your sarcastic, offensive reply was hilarious and deeply constructive. You just made yourself look like a cock. Don't you feel silly.

I dunno about him, but man, the way you talk about people is obnoxious.

OP? I agree completely and have been saying the same thing for awhile now.

The way they're handling customizations is taking the easy, silly way out. They could stick to customizations that fit the setting and still make plenty of money, but it would take more effort.

Winfernal · 2012-06-05, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by Xaine

In Planetside 1 it was easy to find where the battles were. Remember the GIANT FLASHING YELLOW signs on the map, telling you where shit was going down?

Not easy enough?

Mkay.

My point is, making a system where you can look at something, click on it and have it TELEPORT you to the action because apparently its REALLY hard to look at the map and get there yourself, is dumbing the game down to a level where it honestly gets embarrassing.

You know why?

What do you do in CoD? You log on, click on something and it TELEPORTS you to where the action is. Sound familiar?

I understand why they're doing it, and i actually don't fault them for it. They need to cater for the COD kiddies who get angry when they're faced with 360' of the compass, because apparently you need to point them to the action and wipe the dribble off their chin, or they'll go to the forums and rage about how hard the game is.

So while your sarcastic, offensive reply was hilarious and deeply constructive. You just made yourself look like a cock. Don't you feel silly.

I agree with you on some points, but you should tone down the way you talk, and get of that high horse. By todays standards, this game is above the rest when it comes to tactital gameplay. So while you're talking about how they're catering to "idiots", you're actually talking about pretty decent, average gamers.

They're not catering to the "CoD-crowd", this is far above their level. This is not a traditional "run and gun" game, the games that crowd seeks, with smaller maps.

My wish is for this game to set new standards, and new mindsets in todays shooters and gamers. Too many CoD-clones already.

Xaine · 2012-06-05, 10:27 AM

lol.

I presented my opinion on the topic.

He gave me a sarcastic, offensive reply about what i said without posting anything constructive what so ever.

And the way I talk is obnoxious?

The only reason i appear to be on my 'high horse' is because i can reply to a post while respecting someone's opinion. Mine is no more or less valid than anyone elses. Which apparently is a lost art to many people here. Thats why my tone is offensive. If hes not even going to read what i wrote, rather just paraphrase and reply without posting anything constructive, why should i give him the time of day.

Now, while my opinion is my opinon. They are dumbing this game down, its just a fact. I understand why they have to as well. Planetside used to be a niche title that required a little bit of thought. That is slowly fading away, and being replaced by CoD like mechanics. I understand that is what is needed to appeal to the mass market these days, because anything even vaguely complicated (apparently like finding your way to a battle using a map) is shunned by about 90% of the gaming population because they don't get the instant gratification they apparently need.

I know the need to streamline the game, but i think they're going too far. If people want CoD, they'll play CoD. They won't play Call of Planetside.

Planetside was good because of many reasons, not just alot of people playing at the same time in the same area. Many people seem to forget that.

JHendy · 2012-06-05, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by Xaine

So while your sarcastic, offensive reply was hilarious and deeply constructive. You just made yourself look like a cock. Don't you feel silly.

I see that this is the first time you've encountered warborn.

Squiffy · 2012-06-05, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by Xaine

So while your sarcastic, offensive reply was hilarious and deeply constructive. You just made yourself look like a cock. Don't you feel silly.

Sadly, I've read many of your posts which although have valid points, always seem to be extremely aggressive towards other posters. But hay, that's what the ignore button is for isn't it?

Xaine · 2012-06-05, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by Squiffy

Sadly, I've read many of your posts which although have valid points, always seem to be extremely aggressive towards other posters. But hay, that's what the ignore button is for isn't it?

If you're going to blame me for being aggressive towards people, when they are aggressive towards me - that's your prerogative. Part of my personality I suppose. If you dislike that then please, ignore away.

Also, i haven encountered Warborn before - he's not stupid and makes good points when he isn't acting like a penis.

Mordicant · 2012-06-05, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by Xaine

In Planetside 1 it was easy to find where the battles were. Remember the GIANT FLASHING YELLOW signs on the map, telling you where shit was going down?

Not easy enough?

Mkay.

My point is, making a system where you can look at something, click on it and have it TELEPORT you to the action because apparently its REALLY hard to look at the map and get there yourself, is dumbing the game down to a level where it honestly gets embarrassing.

You know why?

What do you do in CoD? You log on, click on something and it TELEPORTS you to where the action is. Sound familiar?

I understand why they're doing it, and i actually don't fault them for it. They need to cater for the COD kiddies who get angry when they're faced with 360' of the compass, because apparently you need to point them to the action and wipe the dribble off their chin, or they'll go to the forums and rage about how hard the game is.

So while your sarcastic, offensive reply was hilarious and deeply constructive. You just made yourself look like a cock. Don't you feel silly.

Oh, you mean the hardcore, uber sophisticated Instant Action button from PS1?

Winfernal · 2012-06-05, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by Mordicant

Oh, you mean the hardcore, uber sophisticated Instant Action button from PS1?

lol! I didn't know about this one.

Can people stop gloryfying their stories from the past? Give me all the information if you're going to compare it to the sequel...

http://wiki.planetsidesyndicate.com/...Instant_Action