Who uses rifles?

[captainkapautz]

Originally Posted by Biohazard

It sounds like they have rifles.

Going by the Engineer-gameplay seen so far, it looks like carbines.

Which by definition still falls into the rifle category.

[Neurotoxin]

In the E3 Demo...

Heavy Assault used LMG

Infiltrator used Sniper Rifle

Combat Medic used Assault Rifle

Light Assault used Carbine

Engineer used Carbine

[captainkapautz]

I think a lot of you guys just have a misconception about the differences between carbines, rifles and LMGs in terms of the game.

As far as I see it, the differences seems to be rather close to RL examples, lke take the G36 assault rifle:
You have the G36K, which is a carbine.
You have the G36, which is a standard assault rifle.
And you have the MG36, which is an LMG.

The thing is though, that the base weapon is pretty much the same, you could turn any one of those into one of the others, simply by switching out barrels, and magazines for the MG36.
But the actual differences aren't as big as you'd think, the G36K can still reach out and touch someone, not as accurate as the other 2, but still reasonable.

The MG36 on the other hand can lay down a wall of lead better than the other 2, but it gets kind of unwieldy in close quarters, because it's bigger and heavier.

And the G36 is pretty much the middle ground, not as unwieldy as the MG36, but not as handy as the G36K.
More accurate than the G36K, but not as good as suppression than the MG36.


Sorry for the RL-example, but I think it's as close to what the devs are apparently trying to achieve as I can tell.

[GreatMazinkaise]

kapautz seems to have the right of it as far as the design goals (naming scheme is similar too). The distinctions are not as great as differently named weapons would be, like a Gauss Rifle vs. Punisher vs. Suppressor.

[captainkapautz]

Originally Posted by GreatMazinkaise

kapautz seems to have the right of it as far as the design goals (naming scheme is similar too). The distinctions are not as great as differently named weapons would be, like a Gauss Rifle vs. Punisher vs. Suppressor.

I gotta admit, too, I like this system.

I always hate it when games have hugely different damage-, range- and accuracyvalues for guns that fire the same caliber and are of the same base weapon, but are in different "categories" like carbine, rifle or LMG.

But that's most likely just the gunnut in me.

[GreatMazinkaise]

Originally Posted by captainkapautz

I gotta admit, too, I like this system.

I always hate it when games have hugely different damage-, range- and accuracyvalues for guns that fire the same caliber and are of the same base weapon, but are in different "categories" like carbine, rifle or LMG.

But that's most likely just the gunnut in me.

I'd rather have differently acting weapons with different names, but if we have to go the alphabet soup route I'd rather do it that way as well. Carbines/Rifles/LMGs just aren't that different. At the macro level, all rifles in a grouping ought to be essentially the same (but I don't expect to see that outside of a wargame).

[Baneblade]

Originally Posted by captainkapautz

What about the PDW and SMG (Pewpewpewis Inferior)?

Mutants

[captainkapautz]

Originally Posted by Sobekeus

Mutants

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