PS1 community split with PS2

[p0intman]

how many of us are there? a couple thousand, perhaps?

Yeah, we could all roll on one server. maybe a thread about it on the ps1 forum to coordinate it?

[Crator]

I honestly don't care.... As long as you can get on the same server as your outfits mates, what the hell is the problem? No, PS1 players aren't necessarily going to play the game (when it first comes out) any better then any other player with the same IQ level.

[Rivenshield]

I've been kind of assuming all along that when go-live approaches, we on PSU would have a poll on which server to migrate to, the better to fight alongside old friends and shoot at old enemies.

We are... aren't we? Based on what I've seen during my free month, there can't be more than a couple thousand of us. It'd be an utter shame if we couldn't keep our dysfunctional little community of armored psychopaths intact.

[Badjuju]

Originally Posted by MCYRook

PS1 vets need to get over themselves and their glory days of old. Seriously.

This is 2012. It's a new game. New people will rise to the top, quickly, and you will make new friends and foes, even more quickly. There's no need to cling to the past like that.

I don't think he is being cocky or anything. There are allot of people from ps1 that have allot of experience in organizing huge groups with various tactics. I play every shooter and you just don't see that degree of organization in any other game. Sure there will be plenty of new comers that will do great, however the nine years of experience in this type of game cannot be overlooked. There will be PS1 vets who will be crucial to their factions success, especially early in the games life. And I am not saying new comers wont contribute as much. The vets will just help to greatly reduce the clusterfuck zerg, particularly early on, and will be a huge contribution to how quickly new comers pick up on leadership skills as well as tactics.

[sylphaen]

Originally Posted by Rivenshield

I've been kind of assuming all along that when go-live approaches, we on PSU would have a poll on which server to migrate to, the better to fight alongside old friends and shoot at old enemies.

We are... aren't we? Based on what I've seen during my free month, there can't be more than a couple thousand of us. It'd be an utter shame if we couldn't keep our dysfunctional little community of armored psychopaths intact.

Yes, I think it's accurate saying there's like 1500-2000 active vets left. Maybe 3k or more if you count the non-active ones who have not heard about PS2 yet. One thing to remember though is that this population was spread over Markov/Emerald/Werner by ping/community reasons so it could likely spread out again.

In the end, there will still be PSU to stay in touch and free accounts (or extra characters) to spend some time with old acquaintances.

I stand by this idea: what should happen will happen. And if paths go different ways, there will always be 1st of July, 2013.

[DOUBLEXBAUGH]

Originally I was hoping the vets would choose 1 server to play on so I could avoid it, but since there wont be plasma spam and MAXes can be killed with MA rifles, I don't really care where people go anymore.

[wraithverge]

yeah, I think when servers roll live we'll pick one and most will play on it. We wont be better or worse, but just to maintain our communities.

[sylphaen]

Originally Posted by Badjuju

I don't think he is being cocky or anything. There are allot of people from ps1 that have allot of experience in organizing huge groups with various tactics. I play every shooter and you just don't see that degree of organization in any other game. Sure there will be plenty of new comers that will do great, however the nine years of experience in this type of game cannot be overlooked. There will be PS1 vets who will be crucial to their factions success, especially early in the games life. And I am not saying new comers wont contribute as much. The vets will just help to greatly reduce the clusterfuck zerg, particularly early on, and will be a huge contribution to how quickly new comers pick up on leadership skills as well as tactics.

Agreed. Transposing it to other communities, it's like for MMORPGs where tight groups already exist. When a new game comes out, they are usually the first ones working on challenging frontier content because their organization/community transfers over.

And yes, it definitely does not mean they will still be the best. Just that they will be up and running faster.

Another example is Sturmgrenadier: they are definitely not the best (as in their players are not worldwide top 10 FPS players) but have been going from game to game and are nevertheless a strong organization that provides a good challenge.

They were in PS1 but existed from way before. If one of their members is around, feel free to share your story since you would know it better.

[MooK]

Emerald for life.

Everyone should just go where they're comfortable, not band together on a single server because we're "veterans."

[sylphaen]

Originally Posted by MooK

Emerald for life.

Everyone should just go where they're comfortable, not band together on a single server because we're "veterans."

What he said. Basing myself on PS1, if you play on East Coast servers at 2 AM, you'll likely be better off playing on West Coast servers for decent pops.

[Hydra]

I only care about my outfit, I honestly couldn't care less where any of you go.
There's only about 4 users on this forum that I genuinely think are cool people.

Don't give a shit about new people that are coming to PS2.
They are just food.

[Poser]

Originally Posted by SgtExo

As a newcomer to the PS universe, I would like to join a server with allot of PS1 vets, just to show them how a real shooter feels

Same. i just want shoot like 5 of them with a rocket launcher when they are bunched together in a hallway. Their so-called "tactics" remind me a lot more of 6 year olds playing hockey, than anything useful in a proper FPS.

[Landtank]

Originally Posted by Poser

Same. i just want shoot like 5 of them with a rocket launcher when they are bunched together in a hallway. Their so-called "tactics" remind me a lot more of 6 year olds playing hockey, than anything useful in a proper FPS.

Just posting here to say, Go Rangers, flames are teh suck D:

[Emperor]

It's pretty disheartening to see the elitism from PS1 vets, especially being that they're a minority in a game that's going to be filled with new players who potentially have a lot to bring to the game. I understand vet status, I understand the pride of 'being there' in a game, and the shared experience of that; don't get me wrong. Still, there's this prevalent self-aggrandizement I keep seeing from vets that's really going to become detrimental to the community as a whole.

Namely thinking that everyone coming into 'your game' is going to be a CoD kiddie, or inexperienced, or won't understand teamwork or how to use vehicles. Again, I get pride--but you guys are really a bunch of small fish in a very, very big pond. SoE is building this up to be comparable to a AAA FPS game--the only difference is scale. I'm not downplaying that; scale is a big thing. But this idea that PS1 vets are the end-all be-all, know-everything-there-is-to-know-about-Planetside-day-1, you guys might be shocked.

PS2 is drawing interest. PS2 is making a lot of FPS players who never took part in the original game sit up and take notice. I'm not saying you guys are gonna get steamrolled, I'm not saying there aren't PS1 vets who aren't good at shooters (traditional or otherwise), but comments like, "I can't wait to shoot all the newcomers in the face," "PS1 vets need to show new players how to use tactics," it's a severe underestimation of what players in other games can do, and have done.

And beyond the argument of "Who is going to own whom," this fragmentation between vets and newcomers isn't something that's good for fostering a community. I mentioned this in Irish's thread. Wanting to segregate yourselves from newcomers is like wanting to stay in the little pond.

Truth is, there are only so many of you. Pride is good to have, but let's be clear: the servers will be awash with brand new people. They're going to come in having various skill levels, various playstyles, and various tactics. The tidal wave of non-PS1 vets this game has been getting attention from are going to hit this game running, and just going to skill up from there. I think veterans are really going to be surprised; right now, you guys are the PS1 vets. You're not PS2 vets. Everyone who jumps in this game on day 1, new to the series or not, they're going to become the PS2 vets. You can either help build a strong community of PS2 vets by not acting like you're the authority on all things Planetside, or you can cling to your elitism while you can, before the game is even in open beta.

Originally Posted by SleepyZombie

Hey! A newcomer to the street fighter series is not going to step into the ring with Daigo "The Beast' Umehara and show him what a real fighting game player feels like.

Yous not going to show the vets a thing or two either

Daigo isn't unbeatable, and new names routinely place. I'm assuming you're not heavily invested in the fighting game scene and only know Daigo's name because of that 3S vid that's been around since 2006. Daigo got bodied at EVO this year.

You've also apparently never heard of Noah, an EIGHT-YEAR-OLD who took on guys like Chris G at Marvel in EVO 2k11 and Mago in AE this year.

Also, if you WERE invested in the fighting game scene, you'd also know that new blood means a wider range of people discovering new tech, adding new strategies, and advancing the game. Games can be out for YEARS and someone will come up with new technology that changes the landscape. This can apply to every genre, but it's often seen in fighting games. Sometimes a new player has something to teach.

[Bags]

Originally Posted by Poser

Same. i just want shoot like 5 of them with a rocket launcher when they are bunched together in a hallway. Their so-called "tactics" remind me a lot more of 6 year olds playing hockey, than anything useful in a proper FPS.

you're thinking azure twilight / blue lions, lol