How do I fight people? - Page 3

AThreatToYou · 2012-11-14, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by Raymac

I think it's a legit gripe. I havn't gotten to play PS2 as much as I would like (combination of poor CPU performance, work, and a new GF), and it's taking me a bit of time to get a hang of things.

For example, in PS1, it was easy to find a bigger fight because you would get a large number of hotspots in a relatively small area. In PS2, there is no such indicator. Many times I show up to a fight right as it is wrapping up or already over. I've been in a bunch of great fights, but I'm realizing how amazingly helpful that hotspot indicator was in PS1.

yes , i want hotspots back.

Bags · 2012-11-14, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by boogy

how to find a good fight? Instant action to a front line hot spot. If no one is there that means the zerg has moved on. Suicide and spawn at the closest sunderer along the front lines. You will find a nice fight doing this 90% of the time.

I will try the sunderer thing some time, but I should not need to suicide to get to a fight.

AThreatToYou · 2012-11-14, 07:08 PM

Just a tip, usually what I do is scout all the hotspots and blinking hexes with a skeeter to find out if there's a fight there or not. Usually I find it pretty quickly like that, plus I come in ready to take out targets.

Crator · 2012-11-14, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Raymac

I think it's a legit gripe. I havn't gotten to play PS2 as much as I would like (combination of poor CPU performance, work, and a new GF), and it's taking me a bit of time to get a hang of things.

For example, in PS1, it was easy to find a bigger fight because you would get a large number of hotspots in a relatively small area. In PS2, there is no such indicator. Many times I show up to a fight right as it is wrapping up or already over. I've been in a bunch of great fights, but I'm realizing how amazingly helpful that hotspot indicator was in PS1.

PS1 Hotspots, yes. That was on the tip of my tongue when I was wrote my post earlier. They defiantly did help more then you think the way they worked in PS1.

boogy · 2012-11-14, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by Bags

I will try the sunderer thing some time, but I should not need to suicide to get to a fight.

well you don't have to suicide. My tip is a down and dirty quick to the frontline method when you first log on. There are other methods that don't break the immersive gameplay experience, but just not as instant. Such as jumping in a galaxy that's filling up at the warp gate. Even quicker is to take an ESF to the front line and you'll easily spot the battles. With the ESF do as much damage to the enemy tanks and if you're taken down spawn at the nearest sunderer or spawn point along where you saw the fighting.

The reason I advocate a sunderer as your deployment target is because where there is a sunderer there are people fighting or about to roll out from a recent battle to a new one. With the recent AMS deployment restrictions you no longer have useless sunderers filling up the spawn menu.

Crator · 2012-11-14, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by boogy

how to find a good fight? Instant action to a front line hot spot. If no one is there that means the zerg has moved on. Suicide and spawn at the closest sunderer along the front lines. You will find a nice fight doing this 90% of the time.

That is currently the best way. Not certain about the 90% thing. Would like it to be a bit more refined. It should be for everyone's benefit but especially for new players. Another way is to join a squad which then gives you access to the spawn points near them, and the squad spawn beacon if they have one out. But that also doesn't really guarantee that you are getting near a fight. The main question was how does anyone tell where the fight is, I think.

EisenKreutzer · 2012-11-14, 08:30 PM

1. Join a random squad.
2. Spawn on squad leader.
3. Leave the squad if they aren't doing something you enjoy.

Some times, the squad will be at the Warp Gate waiting for a failgal, but thats easy to check before you squad spawn. Happy hunting!

Mr DeCastellac · 2012-11-14, 11:41 PM

First, join an even half-way decent faction.

Secondly, click the huge flashing icons on your map and click 'Instant Action'.

Last but not least, see that thing in the middle of your screen? Make it go over some of those moving guys and click the left mouse button.

psijaka · 2012-11-15, 01:22 AM

Originally Posted by Ghost Runner

Head to the Center of the map on Indar to a place called The Crown pretty sure you will find a good fight there.

^ this. Head for the centre of the map. Or more specifically, to where the territories of the 3 empires join; you're sure to find some action.

Bags · 2012-11-15, 01:35 AM

Originally Posted by Mr DeCastellac

First, join an even half-way decent faction.

Secondly, click the huge flashing icons on your map and click 'Instant Action'.

Last but not least, see that thing in the middle of your screen? Make it go over some of those moving guys and click the left mouse button.

reported for trolling enjoy dingdong bannu

psijaka · 2012-11-15, 01:56 AM

Originally Posted by EisenKreutzer

1. Join a random squad.
2. Spawn on squad leader.
3. Leave the squad if they aren't doing something you enjoy.

Some times, the squad will be at the Warp Gate waiting for a failgal, but thats easy to check before you squad spawn. Happy hunting!

Failgal - like it. Death sentence usually.

Hamma · 2012-11-15, 10:02 AM

Guys please keep this on topic. The OP has a valid point and is being berated for it.

MrBloodworth · 2012-11-15, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by Aurmanite

No, I'm just free from the chains of hideously disfigured feelings about a game that was decent for no more than 2 years. Even though that game is one of my favorites of all time.

You just like being wrong.

Originally Posted by Raymac

For example, in PS1, it was easy to find a bigger fight because you would get a large number of hotspots in a relatively small area.

They also lasted longer than PS2. I think this is the crux of the issue. Base and especialy outpost battles are so short. By the time you set out, its over.

But this seems completely by design. In the original, the fights were real struggles that could last hours, giving lots of people ample time to get there, participate and even if they only had 30 minutes, get some good fun in. It also allowed time for re-secures to happen because outfits had time to mount up and roll out. They for some reason seem to have forgotten than when a battle breaks out, and is prolonged, they are easier to find and participate in. In the hunt for 30 minute game play, they have removed it, because most of that is now wasted going base to base behind the ever rolling zerg.

Battles are so short, this adds to why Galdrops are nealry non-existent.

Originally Posted by psijaka

^ this. Head for the centre of the map. Or more specifically, to where the territories of the 3 empires join; you're sure to find some action.

No offense to you, but you are not the only one. It AMAZES ME, that for some reason the crown is seen as a good design feature, and not a huge horrible flaw in the design. One base out of how many has good fights, and this is a good thing?

I recall one of the world designers being proud of this. I have no idea why.

Rolfski · 2012-11-15, 12:34 PM

This is what I do, it's the fun route:

Spawn a Galaxy and enjoy the continent sight seeing trip
The moment you start taking insane damage, check if there's battle going on below you
If there is, go into Stuka mode and dive bomb 90 degrees full throttle towards the enemy blob.
Eject just before crashing and enjoy the carnage and confusion

Tiny chance you might even survive it, at least you know now where the battle is

PoisonTaco · 2012-11-15, 03:00 PM

Okay so here's a more serious response. I play this game to conquer, not to kill. You see that map? Those continents? They all belong to me and my empire. I want it all under my faction's banner.

I start by figuring out what continent needs some work. I decide what territories need capturing and I go. Whether it's an outpost, tower, facility it doesn't matter. If any enemy players are there I murder them. If they outnumber me I build a squad and bring friends. If the enemy players piss me off I grab a tank. If they really piss me off I fly a galaxy into them.

Don't be stuck looking for a fight. Start one. Roll up into the enemy turf and start messing up their shit. Make the enemy mad, take away their objectives, their spawns and their terminals. Make them come to you in response. Then you can have your epic battles.

Just remember, you can't spell slaughter without laughter.