New vehicle info - Page 3

2coasts · 2003-03-27, 05:26 PM

I'm TR because I want to fight for the evil empire.

SpacemanSpiff · 2003-03-27, 05:27 PM

We're not evil. We're just benevolently-challenged.

Vimp · 2003-03-27, 05:31 PM

Personnally I wouldn't put to much confidence in the Magrider description given since it seems to be contradicting itself and impliing that the (much)bigger gun is the weaker gun which defies logic.

It contradicts its self here:

"their primary weapon, a heavy energy rail beam has a limited forward pivot."

"The secondary weapon system, which the pilot controls, is a light Pulsed Particle Accelerator, and is mounted on the front of the vehicle."

For one the the bigger gun in the front far better fits the description of a "heavy energy rail beam" over the small gun on top.
Secondly it mentions that the Primary gun has a limited forward pivot which is what the big gun has. The small gun on top dosn't appear to have any pivot but merely can sway independently from the tank.
Conclusion: the bigger gun is in fact the rail beam and the Magrider summary is incorrect.

The President · 2003-03-27, 05:41 PM

Yeah i most deffinetly agree that the front weapon more resembles a rail beam launcher but who knows.

And Peacemaker i assume LNS wrote that reply around the same time as you which woudl explain why he said the same thing you did. It happens.

-The President

EarlyDawn · 2003-03-27, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by Peacemaker
Isnt that what I just said?

Yeah. Did you check your timestamps?

Tolvy · 2003-03-27, 06:42 PM

Does anyone else think that the Sunderer looks a little small to carry 11 people total? It does to me.

Peacemaker · 2003-03-27, 07:29 PM

Well i sorta figured that out earlyer but anyways. As to the discusion about the Magrider, im wondering about its stats. Lets just assume the description is accurate.

1.What do you think the Armour is? I cant see something light enough to fly taking more than two or three hits from say a Vangaurd (WOOOT DIE Vanu, TR you can live b/c you have been misled during your entire life and thus your vision has been skewed of right and wrong...) (TR havethe most armour, NC are in the middle and Vanu are tagging along in the rear)
2.I think that it may have the best accuracy of any of the tanks of the game (TR has worst, NC in the mid again!)
3. its reload speed is low (Ill bet my socks that NC have the slowest reload and the vanu come in second in this catagory and then TR).
4.The Shells probly have Med. hitting potental (THis is based on the TR throw out insane amounts of fire but each individual bullet is weak and the NC well the NC have a 150mm cannon).
5.It will most likly be the fastest medium moving tank in the game and the most manuverable (NC coming in 2nd for both and TR falling behind in 3rd)

After looking at this It appears that the TR and the Vanu will be a good match for each other but the NC may (other than ROF) have NO distinct disadvantages (Altho they may have the worst accuracy based on they use shotguns, but when i think High rof i think inaccurate). They almost always land in the middle. I love my NC comrads but i wanna know what I compare to. What do u guys think? It wouldnt be balanced if NC were mid RoF, Accuracy armour, speed, manuvarbility and top in damage. Or not that fair even if the accuracy was the worst which is basicaly a coin toss untill open beta.

Im gonna make a new post with this btw

Matuse · 2003-03-27, 09:32 PM

Limited forward pivot refers to the turret on the top of the vehicle. It means that it doesn't have 360 degree rotation like most turrets do.

Even a cursory glance at the Magrider should tell you that the front mounted gun has NO pivot. Since it is controlled by the pilot, it is aimed by moving the entire vehicle. I don't see this being a huge drawback, since it is listed as having "Good" handling. Not having to rely on wheels/treads is a pretty distinct advantage.

FraBaktos · 2003-03-27, 09:41 PM

A bit of this is new information to me. I didn't know the sunderer had 2 75mm cannons... that is just friggin sweet. There's a new reason to use the sunderer over the galaxy.

Vimp · 2003-03-27, 09:51 PM

Actually the front Gun on the Magrider DOES in fact have some limited pivot which was evident in the most earliest of screenshots right up to now simply by seeing that the cannon has a cylinder anchor where it attatchs to the tank which enables it to go up and down. But it hasn't been confirmed in my mind intill the latest screenshot where it actually shows the front gun in a lifted position thus confirming that it pivots up and down.

But all that aside everything else I said equally shows that the Magrider summary is incorrect for the "Heavy Energy Rail Beam" could logically speaking not be the small gun on top and the "Light Pulsed Particle Accelerator" gun the huge(twice the size) gun in the front like the description says it is.

Masurao · 2003-03-27, 10:32 PM

We know of a land vehical layer and air....but what about water? will we be seeing battleships in the near future? Going from continent to continent in an air craft carrier? And I hope that they add new aircraft and tanks as time goes on...

TheJrade · 2003-04-04, 07:21 AM

<--- opens his mouth to say exactly how the Magrider acts in combat...

But the Beta Police (who look alot like TR) burst through the door and gag him before he can say anything...

mmMMRRFF!!! mmFFRRRR!!! rrrMMFF!