New Facility Walls via Higby - Page 3

Shamrock · 2013-01-18, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by PurpleOtter

Walls! AWESOME!

Now SOE just needs to master an incredibly advanced technology called Windows and Doors...

Id settle for windows

Fishy · 2013-01-18, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by Fishy

The 2 pictures look the same to me ... where's the difference?

Actually I do see it now .. excuse my stupidity

Beerbeer · 2013-01-18, 02:06 PM

They need to move some buildings around as well and put up more vehicle barriers.

Mordicant · 2013-01-18, 04:05 PM

I want the amp station walls to be full enclosed. That little place where infantry can get in bugs me. To breach it should be either LA jumping and dropping gens, gal drops, or Sundy gate crashing.

stargazer093 · 2013-01-18, 05:23 PM

yeah...i just don`t understand, wth is the point of making these walls so complex and messy anyway? why can`t they just make a simple, clean, but useful wall?

NewSith · 2013-01-18, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by stargazer093

yeah...i just don`t understand, wth is the point of making these walls so complex and messy anyway? why can`t they just make a simple, clean, but useful wall?

'cause

and

maybe?

RykerStruvian · 2013-01-18, 05:48 PM

Those walls in the stupid beta look a billion times better than the weird techno-shit fortifications we have. I'm not trying to be an asshole or offensive, I'm just saying...simplicity can be extremely beautiful and in this case it works great.

Sturmhardt · 2013-01-18, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by RykerStruvian

Those walls in the stupid beta look a billion times better than the weird techno-shit fortifications we have. I'm not trying to be an asshole or offensive, I'm just saying...simplicity can be extremely beautiful and in this case it works great.

Absolutely agreed.... I don't understand why they were scrapped.

stargazer093 · 2013-01-18, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by stargazer093

yeah...i just don`t understand, wth is the point of making these walls so complex and messy anyway? why can`t they just make a simple, clean, but useful wall?

edit: i mean...is something like this really THAT bad?

SturmovikDrakon · 2013-01-18, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by stargazer093

yeah...i just don`t understand, wth is the point of making these walls so complex and messy anyway? why can`t they just make a simple, clean, but useful wall?

I could never find the word.

But you're right. Their overall design is extremely messy. And you can easily see that when comparing these pictures side by side

Messy. There's so many protruding parts and screen clutter.

Simple

in their current state, it's form over function

Hamma · 2013-01-18, 07:23 PM

I like that second one.

I for one am happy they are at least attempting to do SOMETHING to reduce spam.

Strategy · 2013-01-18, 09:39 PM

Baby steps I guess...

Mietz · 2013-01-18, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by SturmovikDrakon

I could never find the word.

But you're right. Their overall design is extremely messy. And you can easily see that when comparing these pictures side by side

Messy. There's so many protruding parts and screen clutter.

Simple

in their current state, it's form over function

The reason is, it aesthetically fits better with the swiss-cheese design of bases, holes and breaks in everything.

We can't have one large, continuous, piece of cover or else someone could actually defend the thing effectively and hide behind it avoiding being killed and denying someone else XP.

Need to keep that kill-XP flowing.

GTGD · 2013-01-18, 10:15 PM

Looks to me like this will just make it more difficult to attack from the walls. You may be defended against spammy stuff, but it'll be hard to maintain your aim when you only have a small area to aim out of. As vehicles and infantry get closer it's pretty much a deathtrap for the defenders.

NewSith · 2013-01-19, 05:41 AM

Just in all fairness - this change doesn't add anything since one simple thing negates the whole reason for using walls - jumppads.

So it just ends up with you flying from one wallhub (wall tower, if you like) to another. These wallhubs also provide more significant cover and have turrets, so any wall fight will always revolve around these. But with jumppads you can just forget about walls alltogether and hop from one wallhub to another. It only makes sense to change walls themselves in any way after adding some use for these walls.

If jumppads are something devs are too eager about, just because it's jumppads then there're 2 options:

1. Placing jumppads on top of spawnbuildings leading to 3 or 4 wallhubs ,but not leading back. That's actually a defensible design there, isn't it so?
2. Making them rotate only one way - clockwise or counter-clockwise. So if you want to get to a nearest wallhub that's counter-clockwise, when jumppads work clockwise, it is up to you to decide if you want to go on a giant merry-go-round trip, or you want to get there by crossing a wall, on foot.