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Old 2013-03-17, 11:49 PM   [Ignore Me] #46
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lol well I guess this didn't happen.
im no physic,but momma didn't raise no fool!
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Old 2013-03-18, 12:01 AM   [Ignore Me] #47
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lol well I guess this didn't happen.
Money talks
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Old 2013-03-18, 12:02 AM   [Ignore Me] #48
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Money talks
lol you got that right...... this game just went to a different lvl.
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Old 2013-03-18, 12:43 AM   [Ignore Me] #49
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I don't understand why some people have such a negative, knee jerk reaction to this. The main bread and butter for all E sports games is the core fan who isn't interested in the E sports section. All E sports does is promote the main game and have a fun competitive element to the game. More money for the game means more focus on PS2 by SOE.
Main reason I see people not wanting PS2 to be an esport is because PS2 isn't finished yet. The hex system is a fucking HUGE clue to this fact. If something like how the entire map flows and is fought over changes it will ruin any and all ways to play the game and thus make its esports part near shit.

Think if DOTA or LoL went from 3 lanes to 5. What if Starcraft 2 went and had a massive change to how its maps worked like the new hex system changes PS2s maps? How fucked would the esports for those games be for the following months? Very! So much so that it may just kill themselves off without any way to undo the damage. What if baseball added another base or the rules changed in any sport?

A game should be feature complete with its feet rooted and base mechanics set in stone before becoming anything like a sport. If it isn't then there's nothing to master as it any/everything can/will change and thus no way to prove who is best. More weapons shouldn't hurt a thing, but things like the hex system is a big fucking no-no for any sport.

PS2 is just to young. This should have waited till after the 6 month plan or a year after launch.
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Old 2013-03-18, 12:46 AM   [Ignore Me] #50
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Big thumbs down to Esports.
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Old 2013-03-18, 01:46 AM   [Ignore Me] #51
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Good move I think, NUC will be playing.
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Old 2013-03-18, 01:51 AM   [Ignore Me] #52
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Why are they trying to turn this game into an arcade shooter? Just for commercialism?
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Old 2013-03-18, 01:54 AM   [Ignore Me] #53
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heres whats so goddamn funny to me:

PS2 as an esport (as malorn said a while ago) is a dumb idea. It doesn't work. It can't work. And all the while, they're pushing on ahed and devoting development resources to this clusterfuck when there is a huge laundry list of things that need work. Meanwhile, they're apparently designing these arenas on bases that really aren't designed for fighting, from a tactical perspective.

They're actually bad places to fight, structurally. The only reason I would contribute to a base fight at an amp, tech or bio is because there is literally not a fight anywhere near any other decent facility that actually can sustain a fight without involving tanks and air murdering everyone, or isn't an awful slogfest like at biolabs.

So not only are they setting up a flawed idea, they're using poorly thought out bases as a basis for their arenas for their flawed idea.

Not only that, they've not waited at all, to solve any of the giant issues. They've openly said "No, we're not waiting, we're pushing ahed and your input, while valued, is about as useful as the trash bin". (Imo, thats what it seems like, despite the ideas being downvoted to shit on the roadmap, and being that they are at best divisive if you use the numbers as samples that can be scaled up to the entire playerbase)

OK, fine, so be it. Smed and co are digging their own graves for PS2, just like they did in PS1. Its a flawed idea that at best, attracts people with even worse attitudes than mine, being centered around places to fight that in and of themselves, don't lend to fighting.

But hey, according to random people, I'm just a "single player maggot" who doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.

0.00 cents, because I'm really honestly done giving a shit about this. let me know when it blows up in their face or fails entirely as the joke that it is. I've got other slightly more concerning things to rant about and write about like, why the current base designs had to be designed by somebody who enjoyed BF2 or COD more than planetside.
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Old 2013-03-18, 01:54 AM   [Ignore Me] #54
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Why are they trying to turn this game into an arcade shooter? Just for commercialism?
They aren't trying to turn it into anything. This merely a side addition to the game that allows outfits to compete against each other if they choose.
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Old 2013-03-18, 02:42 AM   [Ignore Me] #55
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They aren't trying to turn it into anything. This merely a side addition to the game that allows outfits to compete against each other if they choose.
Bang on.

It's content. And gives the majority of smaller outfits an actual reason and motivation to play.
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Old 2013-03-18, 03:07 AM   [Ignore Me] #56
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Anyone remember the outfit wars ??????


Weren't they competative ??????

Pointman stop whining its not going to change a thing. Yes I'm not bothered o e way or another , I don't want to watch it. But as an advertising mechanism to help soe gain more money to spend on the main game I don't have an issue with it. A competative element needs to be in any game for those hardcore players to push for. Be it an mmorpg going for a world first raid boss kill or an esports spot for their outfit its the same it drives the players to do better and play together well.

I don't care much for it but I hope its a success because we could all benefit off the back of it.
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Old 2013-03-18, 03:11 AM   [Ignore Me] #57
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Originally Posted by p0intman View Post
heres whats so goddamn funny to me:

PS2 as an esport (as malorn said a while ago) is a dumb idea. It doesn't work. It can't work. And all the while, they're pushing on ahed and devoting development resources to this clusterfuck when there is a huge laundry list of things that need work. Meanwhile, they're apparently designing these arenas on bases that really aren't designed for fighting, from a tactical perspective.

They're actually bad places to fight, structurally. The only reason I would contribute to a base fight at an amp, tech or bio is because there is literally not a fight anywhere near any other decent facility that actually can sustain a fight without involving tanks and air murdering everyone, or isn't an awful slogfest like at biolabs.

So not only are they setting up a flawed idea, they're using poorly thought out bases as a basis for their arenas for their flawed idea.

Not only that, they've not waited at all, to solve any of the giant issues. They've openly said "No, we're not waiting, we're pushing ahed and your input, while valued, is about as useful as the trash bin". (Imo, thats what it seems like, despite the ideas being downvoted to shit on the roadmap, and being that they are at best divisive if you use the numbers as samples that can be scaled up to the entire playerbase)

OK, fine, so be it. Smed and co are digging their own graves for PS2, just like they did in PS1. Its a flawed idea that at best, attracts people with even worse attitudes than mine, being centered around places to fight that in and of themselves, don't lend to fighting.

But hey, according to random people, I'm just a "single player maggot" who doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.

0.00 cents, because I'm really honestly done giving a shit about this. let me know when it blows up in their face or fails entirely as the joke that it is. I've got other slightly more concerning things to rant about and write about like, why the current base designs had to be designed by somebody who enjoyed BF2 or COD more than planetside.
Here's what's so goddamn funny to me:

You keep stating that you're a cool nihilist and you don't care anymore. But you keep coming back in here to bitch anyway.
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Old 2013-03-18, 03:29 AM   [Ignore Me] #58
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I'm just curious.. Is there an offical roster floating around somewhere for who is going to be competeting in esports?
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Old 2013-03-18, 03:32 AM   [Ignore Me] #59
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Originally Posted by Empra View Post
All E sports does is promote the main game and have a fun competitive element to the game. More money for the game means more focus on PS2 by SOE.
Personally I don't mind e-sports especially if it might help SOE in promoting all their games. More money for SOE, more goodies for players later on. At least that's how I feel.
The only thing I don't understand is why SOE instead of placing mlg info about planetside 2 on their twitchtv channel, sends players to twitchtv/mlg channel which you have to actually subscribe (pay) to watch it...
Unless I am missing something...
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Old 2013-03-18, 04:01 AM   [Ignore Me] #60
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Deleted. Miss read sorry.

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