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Old 2007-07-02, 02:08 PM   [Ignore Me] #46
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Not quite, they're still selling like hot cakes at apple stores, and the activation problems have pretty much been sorted out. The only people that actually have a wait by now are people trying to transfer a phone number from a different carrier.

So round 1 may have ended, but definitely not with a fatality by any extent. In fact, most companies are still giving a nod to the iPhone, because no one knows where Apple is going to go from here. Jobs was right, it really is an exciting time to be with the company.
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Old 2007-07-02, 02:36 PM   [Ignore Me] #47
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I've got my PSP that pretty much fills the role of media player. As for my actual cell phone, I get to upgrade it soon and depending upon whether I get this big promotion at work I'm applying for (and have been selected for a second interview for) I'll probably get a Samsung Pocket PC or just one with a nice keyboard and camera.
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Old 2007-07-02, 02:51 PM   [Ignore Me] #48
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To be honest from my reading today it appears Apple was set to go for the iPhone's release, having tons of units to meet demand and having an awesome experience in the stores.

It sounds like (surprise surprise) AT&T was not ready and dropped the ball not having enough units in many stores AND their servers taking a shit.
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Old 2007-07-02, 03:01 PM   [Ignore Me] #49
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What really cracks me up is that you cannot download music with the iPhone, and it connects only to AT&T's outdated EDGE network. That just seems like bad planning.
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Old 2007-07-02, 03:43 PM   [Ignore Me] #50
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As far as I know they are upgrading their servers and everything. Speculation though, Im going to get it tomorrow
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Old 2007-07-02, 05:18 PM   [Ignore Me] #51
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Originally Posted by Electrofreak View Post
What really cracks me up is that you cannot download music with the iPhone, and it connects only to AT&T's outdated EDGE network. That just seems like bad planning.
Not really...

A HSDPA transmitter sucks more battery life then an indonesian crack whore sucks cock. It was a trade, IMHO, battery life for 3G. The HSDPA network is pretty pitiful, it exists, but it isn't widespread. If I had to venture a bet, that there is the reason it can't use 3G, I'd also venture to say that a future version will definitely have 3G, Job's said it would and RDF or not Job's never lies - he just doesn't tell whole truths.

Sure the EV-DO network is much more widespread then HSDPA, and its devices are a lot more efficient, but who would the carrier be? Verizon? As if apple would go for that - letting the cell phone company cripple it's product beyond all belief. Sprint?

But, uh, CDMA/EV-DO is virtually non-existent in Europe (assuming it exists at all), and their 3G networks (like their broadband internet networks) are superbly fast. If Apple was looking at the global market, CDMA would be the last thing they would want to look at.

The only other nationwide GSM carrier is T-Mobile, and I'd further venture to say that they didn't allow Apple proper access to their network, so Apple was forced to go else where. (Not to mention, I'd never by a Gay-Mobile phone, after all the fun experiences I've had with their hotspots and the sidekick fiasco I went through.)

I'm not defending Cingular or AT&T or their EDGE network, far from it. I'm simply presenting that it may have been Apple's only good option.

And now some will argue that the very features Verizon would've crippled have been "pre-nerfed" already in the iPhone. In some cases this is true, BUT it is OS X people, and its totally under Apple's control, they can do whatever they want with the hardware they have by releasing software upgrades... and in a lot of cases the hardware is there, they just need to release the software.

Which brings up another point, Apple took teams away from Leopard so that the iPhone would be somewhat stable and usable for its release, and most of its bigger core functions are in place. Which isn't to say that everything that was supposed to make it in by June 29th actually did make it. I imagine we'll be seeing quite a few updates in the close future, and probably a few new features from the Apple and the Google side of things.
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Old 2007-07-02, 07:22 PM   [Ignore Me] #52
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Old 2007-07-02, 07:24 PM   [Ignore Me] #53
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Yea good point on the cell carriers.

Apple is notorious for wanting things to be done their way, take iTunes for example they want every song to be 99 cents despite what the record folks want and they can get away with it.. at least in the near future.
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Old 2007-07-03, 03:28 AM   [Ignore Me] #54
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My friend who is addicted to gambling told me there was a 20 to 1 line on whether someone was trampled to death during the launch of this thing. Anyone know if there was one?
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