Do you guys believe this moon could support life? - Page 4

Stew · 2012-06-25, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by EVILoHOMER

http://www.planetside-universe.com/m...f47a317e44.jpg

Firstly I dunno what crazy orbit they're all following but that small moon would no way support life. It's far too small, it would have had it's atmosphere blown away by the closest star as it's core wouldn't have sustained heat for so long. Now if the moon is being pulled and stretched constantly then it would show signs of volcanic activity. The planets/Moons around it are far more likely to sustain life and yet they appear not to. They're all in same distance from the sun and would not have lost their heat to space any where near as fast as that small moon would have.

I just find the sky highly unrealistic.

theyres is a big chance yeah since it have waters and green stuff

GreatMazinkaise · 2012-06-25, 08:26 AM

It's all just a brilliant plot by the ancient Vanu to troll the prisoners of Auraxis with a logic problem. That's all Planetside is... a giant lab where Blue and Orange Morality aliens experiment on undying humans.

MrKWalmsley · 2012-06-25, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by Canaris

So either we have stunningly beautiful

or realistic

I'll go with stunningly beautiful thanks

So beauty to you just means size? Since you can have that exact same scene, with the same colours detail, but just have the bodies be a bit smaller. To me, the size has absolutely nothing to do with its beauty, and I think the fact that that seems to not be the case for you is a shame.

capiqu · 2012-06-25, 08:43 AM

Would have been nice for them to put up recognizable objects like The Big Dipper and others to give us the perception that we are near our local cluster in the universe.

Sledgecrushr · 2012-06-25, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by PsychoXR-20

In order for this sky to be even remotely believable, it means that Auraxis is a moon. The massive object that is only ever seen as a very think crescent has to be a gas giant, anything else and the entire Auraxian system would cease to exist, as that object and Auraxis would have been decimated by tidal forces. (for fun, if that object were the size of our moon it would be some 30k km away from Auraxis, 10 times closer than our moon is to Earth.

With artificial gravity you would be able to overcome any tidal forces from nearby moons.

Knotz · 2012-06-25, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by EVILoHOMER

http://www.planetside-universe.com/m...f47a317e44.jpg

Firstly I dunno what crazy orbit they're all following but that small moon would no way support life. It's far too small, it would have had it's atmosphere blown away by the closest star as it's core wouldn't have sustained heat for so long. Now if the moon is being pulled and stretched constantly then it would show signs of volcanic activity. The planets/Moons around it are far more likely to sustain life and yet they appear not to. They're all in same distance from the sun and would not have lost their heat to space any where near as fast as that small moon would have.

I just find the sky highly unrealistic.

You forget that this picture in no way shows a sense of scale... that moon might be huge, it might have a superdense core (that would increase gravity, meaning that its atmosphere wouldn't be sucked away) the big planet behind might be a gas giant with no real core, therefore might not have a huge amount of gravity.

It isn't very good to comment on the nature of the cosmos when you have very little information other than a simple picture... also you're not an astrophysicist.

Knotz · 2012-06-25, 08:55 AM

You know Jupiter? That absolutely fucking massive planet in the solar system... you know one of its moons has water right? and that it could possibly sustain life? yeah you have no idea about astro physics. There are some pretty unbelievable things out there in REAL LIFE... this picture is a game, and not even close to some of the things that are actually out there...

MrKWalmsley · 2012-06-25, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by Sledgecrushr

With artificial gravity you would be able to overcome any tidal forces from nearby moons.

Artificial gravity on such a scale would require IMMENSE technological advancement, even centuries if not millennia after the planetside timeline (judging by current tech, even of the vanu) takes place. I mean that would require a Type 3 civilisation, which I think would be far beyond projectile weapons or even having human soldiers.

Originally Posted by Knotz

You know Jupiter? That absolutely fucking massive planet in the solar system... you know one of its moons has water right? and that it could possibly sustain life? yeah you have no idea about astro physics.

... who exactly here is claiming that it is impossible for a life sustaining moon to be able to orbit a gas giant? I'd like you to quote them saying exactly that.

And the moon you talk about is called Europa. However for your information, having water may not be enough to sustain life by itself, since it is preferable to have it in a liquid state. Although the elliptical orbit of the moon around such a large gravity well causes its core to kneed like bread, making liquid water beneath the surface highly likely, it is still not absolutely certain whether that is the case, let alone if there is life there.

I think taking a frozen wasteland with a good possibility of liquid water being under it's surface and a slight possibility of life being there, and then comparing it to a lush, multi-climate/environment, Earth-like planet which already has life growing on it to be a tad strange.

Canaris · 2012-06-25, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by MrKWalmsley

So beauty to you just means size? Since you can have that exact same scene, with the same colours detail, but just have the bodies be a bit smaller. To me, the size has absolutely nothing to do with its beauty, and I think the fact that that seems to not be the case for you is a shame.

this is Planetside 2 bitch

jepaul · 2012-06-25, 09:10 AM

I either missed the satire here or I stumbled into a fucking larp convention.

Instead of bitching about fucking moon environments that have nothing to do with the game go practice helicopter flying from an orginal bf2 box and then simply do the 45 minute shooting drills with an assault rifle, pistol, and shoot gun in yor current favorite fps. Those drills cover all the basics and help in any game.

Again, i hope this was all satire because if this is the kind of shit you people spend time on this game will be a joke once fps's start getting here in force.

MrKWalmsley · 2012-06-25, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by Canaris

this is Planetside 2 bitch

Wow, great response. Love how you went through all of my points and countered them one by one just like I did to yours. How very mature. So I can safety assume that yes, your idea of beauty is how big something is.

Jonny · 2012-06-25, 09:20 AM

Well thats my desktop at the moment, and I think the gas giant and earth like moon look great. Its a sci-fi game so it doesn't need to be ultra realistic. I do however feel like the white moon on the far right looks painfully close.. I'm not sure if its necessary.

MrKWalmsley · 2012-06-25, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by Jonny

I do however feel like the white moon on the far right looks painfully close.. I'm not sure if its necessary.

Its a sci-fi game! So it doesn't need to be ultra realistic!

SztEltviz · 2012-06-25, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by MrKWalmsley

Artificial gravity on such a scale would require IMMENSE technological advancement, even centuries if not millennia after the planetside timeline (judging by current tech, even of the vanu) takes place. I mean that would require a Type 3 civilisation, which I think would be far beyond projectile weapons or even having human soldiers.

Because vanu had the tech that doesn't mean the expedition found it or understand it yet. Imagine a caveman as he finds a cpu chip and a fireman axe. He only could use the axe, and wouldn't recognize the cpu as useful at all.

Originally Posted by MrKWalmsley

And the moon you talk about is called Europa. However for your information, having water may not be enough to sustain life by itself, since it is preferable to have it in a liquid state. Although the elliptical orbit of the moon around such a large gravity well causes its core to kneed like bread, making liquid water beneath the surface highly likely, it is still not absolutely certain whether that is the case, let alone if there is life there.

I think taking a frozen wasteland with a good possibility of liquid water being under it's surface and a slight possibility of life being there, and then comparing it to a lush, multi-climate/environment, Earth-like planet which already has life growing on it to be a tad strange.

The new exoplanets they keep finding with Kepler are almost all gas giants ( smaller are harder to detect) and near to their stars (short years), so not all star system comparable to ours.

So i think that pic is within a reasonable scenario. Maybe the orbits are instable, but in the future we need some meteor shower anyway

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Biohazard · 2012-06-25, 09:58 AM

It is not the distance that bothers me, it is the lighting. If one could see all three of those bodies in the sky at the same time they would have very similar phases, and to me it looks like the light on the two besides the moon is coming from the wrong direction!

Look here, better pic IMO.