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[Ignore Me] #46 | |||
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Derp. Don't think I know you, so uh.. can't take offense?
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[Ignore Me] #47 | ||
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As long as they don't sell stuff that can't be accessed in game, like a super awesome rocket launcher that shoots 10 rockets that break off into 100 rockets that home on every target in 100 metre radius, but boosters is just people getting somewhere faster, that won't impact my ability to kill them, they will still die to my bullets.
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[Ignore Me] #48 | |||
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An mmofps is new to the common gamer today, we can't possibly predict anything until we're seeing it with our own eyes. |
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[Ignore Me] #49 | |||
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Anyway, http://www.slideshare.net/bcousins/paying-to-win That's a lengthy - and very interesting - presentation about the F2P/P2W business model. It's been proven to be an effective business model for making substantial money off of an online game, regardless of a very vocal outcry against "paying to win" in various aspects. It isn't going to go away and stop being used unless (or until) a more profitable business model is designed, or consumers stop spending money on these companies. This is why SOE is using it for Planetside 2.
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[Ignore Me] #50 | |||
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Then boom, it says F2P, hopefully. |
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[Ignore Me] #51 | |||
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[Ignore Me] #52 | |||
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EDIT: I meant, that SOE won't ask, not that hardcore fans wouldn't donate. Don't give them ideas such as this, because they may use both at the same time. Last edited by Fafnir; 2012-06-04 at 07:51 PM. |
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[Ignore Me] #53 | ||
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It's either F2P, or no sequel at all. Atleast not with this quality.
Quoting myself here: I'd imagine them trying to maintain this new game with it's new engine with the old playerbase. That wouldn't work, to say the least. It's to underground. But if you expected the engine and graphics from the original PS, you'd have all your fun in PS2 with the original playerbase. This is called branching out, or surviving. I'd guess you PS vets wanted a sequel with updated engine/graphics, right? Stamping a "15$ per month" sign on sequel of a game many people never even heard of back in the days, that's too much of a risk if you ask me. = F2P, growing community. Which also equals some "sacrifices", like these micro-transactions. That's life. Get some, lose some. I'm sure we'll all enjoy PS2. Both vets and newbs. Last edited by Winfernal; 2012-06-04 at 07:52 PM. |
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[Ignore Me] #54 | |||
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[Ignore Me] #55 | ||
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While you're saying this now (and i'll even believe you.).
I don't think most people would be satisfied with a sequel of Planetside in 2012 with 2003-graphics and gameplay. Wash away some nostalgia first, and tell me again how you'd be fine with the old engine. |
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[Ignore Me] #56 | ||
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holy fucking shit, someone gets it.
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[Ignore Me] #57 | |||
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But i'm telling you, it's either back to the original PS, or hoping for no "P2W-factors" in PS2 while it's F2P. A monthly sub wouldn't be enough for the game to survive. |
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[Ignore Me] #58 | |||
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*facepalm* You don't see it do you? THEY (THE INDUSTRY) HAVE ALREADY STATED THAT THIS IS EXACTLY WHERE THEY WANT TO GO, FULL STOP. ITS BEEN STATED BY MORE THAN ONE PERSON AND ON MORE THAN ONE INSTANCE. THIS IS A PROMISE THAT HIGBY NOR SOE WILL EVER POSSIBLY KEEP. IT IS FALSE TO BELIEVE THEY WILL NOT SELL WEAPONS FOR REAL CASH. There. its in fucking capslock for you.
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[Ignore Me] #59 | ||
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Watch that presentation I posted - it covers the progression of a F2P game from just selling boosts, customization, and convenience to a direct P2W game because the game just wasn't making enough money off of the former, and they made their shop significantly more profitable by going P2W.
You can also look at the way LoL has handled it. They haven't released a new champion for less than 6,300 IP in a very long time, and I guarantee that's because they make a significant amount of money off of people buying RP for a new champion that looks really cool that they want to play to pick up that champion on day one, and they don't play enough to save up enough IP to buy that champion with that.
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