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Old 2013-04-03, 03:17 AM   [Ignore Me] #46
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Re: If you could have one thing from another Empire


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Yeah. Would be cool to have a non faction specific quick fighter, like base speed of 280 (still hovers, this is the PS2 flight engine), but can't have a secondary.
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Old 2013-04-03, 04:03 AM   [Ignore Me] #47
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Weapon sounds from the NC guns, please, for the VS.

For my NC alt, the voice-set from the TR or the VS. Anything that doesn't sound like a whining teenager who has just been told to tidy her room.
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Old 2013-04-03, 04:46 AM   [Ignore Me] #48
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I would want the TR Mosquito because ever since Game Update 2 the Reaver has handled like a flying brick and I miss flying.
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Old 2013-04-03, 06:54 AM   [Ignore Me] #49
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I want whichever Transformer calls out the VS Battles.
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Old 2013-04-03, 08:02 AM   [Ignore Me] #50
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I would love to have the Phoenix. Simply awesome.
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Old 2013-04-03, 08:16 AM   [Ignore Me] #51
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Originally Posted by Dragonskin View Post
Hacksaws... All maxes need hacksaws. Give comsos or mercies to NC as well. We need more range options for maxes and find better ways to make them more faction specific.
^ this.

Originally Posted by p0intman View Post
i want the tr and vs maxes - they have range and damage that the nc max cannot compare with, and yet they whine about our alpha in cqb. i think i would rather have the dc max with its range.
^ and this.

AI MAXes are the biggest imbalance in the game at the moment. I know this is being looked at, but I just don't see how it is going to be possible to balance a shotgun against a machine gun; they are just too different.

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TR get a MAX shotgun; higher rate of fire, lower damage, larger clip than NC.

VS get a MAX shotgun; slightly lower DPS but smaller cone of fire than the TR version above.

NC get a MAX HMG; higher damage than TR; lower ROF, smaller clip.

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Old 2013-04-03, 11:23 AM   [Ignore Me] #52
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Nothing.

I did choose vanu for a reason. What do i want with inferior outdated tech? :P
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Old 2013-04-03, 11:24 AM   [Ignore Me] #53
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AI MAXes are the biggest imbalance in the game at the moment. I know this is being looked at, but I just don't see how it is going to be possible to balance a shotgun against a machine gun; they are just too different.

Solution:


TR get a MAX shotgun; higher rate of fire, lower damage, larger clip than NC.

VS get a MAX shotgun; slightly lower DPS but smaller cone of fire than the TR version above.

NC get a MAX HMG; higher damage than TR; lower ROF, smaller clip.
I like where you are going with this. The faction specific part of the MAXes should be like other parts of the game. Weapons have different characteristics, but are functionally the same. Graphics and sounds can be empire specific. Then give them abilities that are empire specific to help differentiate the MAXs... as long as they have access to the same types of weapons it would be a great start.

Also AI MAXes should do crap damage to other MAXes. If you want to be an anti-max max.. then you go with the AV weapons since the MAX is technically a vehicle. That way MAXes have more distinguishable roles and of course they will have to beef up AV MAX weapons because they are kind of terrible at the moment.

I know some of this is probably coming with the MAX pass later.. but it needs to come before other classes in my opinion. I remember MAXes being scarier in beta.. even in open terrian. Seemed like small arms fire did crap against them. I want that to return. We have tons of rockets and other explosives in game now. MAXes should be able to go out into the field more often instead of regulated to sundy babysitting and biolab defense.

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Old 2013-04-03, 11:45 AM   [Ignore Me] #54
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I can't choose just one!

Vehicle: Give me the Mosquito. Much easier to manuever and stay on target in a dogfight, IMO.

Vehicle Weapon: G30 Vulcan. People under estimate how good this gun is. On a Magrider it would be hilariously unstoppable.


The only other thing I would want is the damage of the other empires at range.
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Old 2013-04-03, 11:58 AM   [Ignore Me] #55
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Originally Posted by Dragonskin View Post
I like where you are going with this. The faction specific part of the MAXes should be like other parts of the game. Weapons have different characteristics, but are functionally the same. Graphics and sounds can be empire specific. Then give them abilities that are empire specific to help differentiate the MAXs... as long as they have access to the same types of weapons it would be a great start.

Also AI MAXes should do crap damage to other MAXes. If you want to be an anti-max max.. then you go with the AV weapons since the MAX is technically a vehicle. That way MAXes have more distinguishable roles and of course they will have to beef up AV MAX weapons because they are kind of terrible at the moment.

I know some of this is probably coming with the MAX pass later.. but it needs to come before other classes in my opinion. I remember MAXes being scarier in beta.. even in open terrian. Seemed like small arms fire did crap against them. I want that to return. We have tons of rockets and other explosives in game now. MAXes should be able to go out into the field more often instead of regulated to sundy babysitting and biolab defense.
As a big fan of the NC AV MAX I would certainly like AI MAXes to do less damage from a purely selfish point of view; and small arms fire, for that matter. As to whether that would be fair, I'm really not so sure.

When I'm up against an AI MAX, I'm certainly at a big disadvantage up close; and it usually ends badly for me, as Dual Falcons are very unreliable at close range. But at medium range, the advantage definately swings my way as I can pop in and out of cover firing an accurate high damage salvo, whereas the AI MAXes HMGs are pretty inaccurate and can only land a small amount of damage on to me during the time that I break cover to fire. Seems like a fair balance. I can't speak for people who run Dual Pounders or Comets though; rarely seen in my experience.

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Old 2013-04-03, 01:23 PM   [Ignore Me] #56
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NC Scatter Maxes! Yeah baby! Oh, wait....
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Old 2013-04-03, 04:35 PM   [Ignore Me] #57
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Originally Posted by Assist View Post
The only other thing I would want is the damage of the other empires at range.
*redacted due to being just plain wrong! *

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Old 2013-04-03, 05:03 PM   [Ignore Me] #58
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Originally Posted by basti View Post
Nothing.

I did choose vanu for a reason. What do i want with inferior outdated tech? :P
The TR color scheme.. I play vanu for a reason as well... and it's not because of purple and teal.
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Old 2013-04-03, 07:21 PM   [Ignore Me] #59
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Vehicle Weapon: G30 Vulcan. People under estimate how good this gun is. On a Magrider it would be hilariously unstoppable.
Absolutely. The mag is certainly the best at closing distance...and yet its weapons favor long range.
You give it that vulcan and things would get interesting.

I want the Rebel.
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Old 2013-04-03, 07:45 PM   [Ignore Me] #60
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This is actually tough... I'm going to go with Scythe. It just flies so damn well its ridiculous. If not that, hacksaws.
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