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Old 2011-09-08, 11:59 AM   [Ignore Me] #1
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I think we need to be careful how we interpret wording here with regard to "crafting". First, I believe it was mentioned that resources will not be tangible items. There is not going to be auraxium ore, mining, etc...As I understand what has been said, resources come automatically from control of the territory on which those resources exist. Control that spot of ground and you automatically get the benefits of the resources contained there. I've seen a few threads where this interpretation is mis-understood.

That being said, it was also stated that certain resources will be needed in order to produce or perhaps "craft" certain items, addons, or additions to the elements of the game. It's possible Smed used the word "craft" not in the literal sense, but as a descriptive term to describe the process of obtaining these resource dependent benefits. So as Hamma put it, lets not get our torso armor plating in a wad over vague wording until we see something concrete.
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Old 2011-09-08, 12:17 PM   [Ignore Me] #2
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One sec, one sec. You can upgrade weapons to increase weapon damage?
This has been known since FF. They have not gone into specifics yet but said most upgrades are more like side-grades in that they have trade-offs. You can put on an attachment for extra damage (like 2-3%, nothing major) but it will decrease the guns RoF or accuracy.

OT - I don't see a F2P system working with cosmetic only things in the stores. I don't care what color my gun is, or having a cool looking helmet, so I know I wont be buying anything. If I can play for free cool, but maybe a cheap $5 sub along with the store, otherwise I just don't see it producing enough money to keep up with development.
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Old 2011-09-08, 12:34 PM   [Ignore Me] #3
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Originally Posted by DOUBLEXBAUGH View Post
This has been known since FF. They have not gone into specifics yet but said most upgrades are more like side-grades in that they have trade-offs. You can put on an attachment for extra damage (like 2-3%, nothing major) but it will decrease the guns RoF or accuracy.

OT - I don't see a F2P system working with cosmetic only things in the stores. I don't care what color my gun is, or having a cool looking helmet, so I know I wont be buying anything. If I can play for free cool, but maybe a cheap $5 sub along with the store, otherwise I just don't see it producing enough money to keep up with development.
Well maybe I'm missing something but I also heard that skills may increase weapon damage. If this and Alien Invasions were known since fan faire (what the fuck is fan faire?), nobody has been mentioning them on the forums until now, in fact they been mentioning stupid things like alternative visuals for tanks or dual wielding. Perhaps also worth noting that those threads get the most replies.
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Old 2011-09-08, 12:17 PM   [Ignore Me] #4
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It is also quite possible that Sony is adapting a different payment model for the PRC and the "western" world.
Is this seriously the only person that understands this? The Chinese version being developed for China by The9 is probably not the same game running in the US and Europe.

There's a reason they had to work with The9 in the first place. It's not just to put up separate servers over there. The9 is making actual changes to the game to fit the payment model expected by the Chinese audience.

Until we hear information about the US release I'm not going to pay much attention to things they're planning for the Chinese release.
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Old 2011-09-08, 12:31 PM   [Ignore Me] #5
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Originally Posted by Sirisian View Post
Is this seriously the only person that understands this? The Chinese version being developed for China by The9 is probably not the same game running in the US and Europe.

There's a reason they had to work with The9 in the first place. It's not just to put up separate servers over there. The9 is making actual changes to the game to fit the payment model expected by the Chinese audience.

Until we hear information about the US release I'm not going to pay much attention to things they're planning for the Chinese release.
This makes sense.
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Old 2011-09-08, 04:21 PM   [Ignore Me] #6
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Stopped reading after two pages of pointless crying and bitching about vague statements. If I missed something relevant on pages 3-7 or whatever, oh fucking well.

Originally Posted by Sirisian View Post
Is this seriously the only person that understands this? The Chinese version being developed for China by The9 is probably not the same game running in the US and Europe.

There's a reason they had to work with The9 in the first place. It's not just to put up separate servers over there. The9 is making actual changes to the game to fit the payment model expected by the Chinese audience.
I can back this statement up by citing precedence. Warhammer Online was released to the Chinese as almost a wholly different game - I worked on the localisation for it. The game over there had a whole lot of stuff removed because certain things are deemed illegal or immoral, so we had to basically rebuild the game cosmetically. It also had different payment models. Granted, I don't work for SOE so I have no idea what they are doing. But it's not a big leap of simple logic.

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Crafting? Aliens?

If I wanted to shoot AI, I'd Play WoW

If I wanted to Craft weapons and sell them, I'd play WoW

I don't play WoW

I'm trying not to panic, I know it's a Chinese translation, but this thread gives me diarrhea.
This.

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I second the motion to hire Firefly as a CSR for PS2.
No, because I worked CS for Bioware-Mythic and having to sit there and be firm but polite with some snotnosed little dipshit cocksucker is not my idea of a good time, which is why I transferred to a developer position.

And despite Dan Binter aka CSR-DanB aka Brewko's complete and utter faggotry to players, I bet SOE has policies in place that make their CSRs be nice. And I don't wanna be nice to anyone who's an asshole unless they're planning to let me put it in their butt.
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Old 2011-09-08, 12:03 PM   [Ignore Me] #7
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Let me guess, SOE still hasn't learned their lesson about providing good public relations group to sort out these issues and provide good advertisement. <sigh>

And the funny thing is, many folks on these forums would probably give their left toe to provide them the proper PR and advertisement for free.
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Old 2011-09-08, 12:18 PM   [Ignore Me] #8
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someone run this past the CNs on gemini and get a better translation ffs.
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Old 2011-09-08, 12:25 PM   [Ignore Me] #9
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Originally Posted by p0intman View Post
someone run this past the CNs on gemini and get a better translation ffs.
Why not just do this. Works fairly well.
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Old 2011-09-08, 12:28 PM   [Ignore Me] #10
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WTS [MCG of Accuracy] x 1

Okay, really hoping crafting means putting a silencer or something on your gun.
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Old 2011-09-08, 12:29 PM   [Ignore Me] #11
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We get signal.

Main screen turn on.
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Old 2011-09-08, 12:48 PM   [Ignore Me] #12
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anyone who takes the chineese translation for anything more than a bad tldr of the conversation as a whole is a, an idiot and b, not seeing the trees for the forest. or something.

frankly, the chineese language has nuances and double-meaning phrases that make translation really really really difficult. get a proper translation done, or better yet get smed to do his own tldr here and then read THAT for what it is.
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Old 2011-09-08, 12:53 PM   [Ignore Me] #13
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Basically what we thought then. Yes yes.
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Old 2011-09-08, 01:00 PM   [Ignore Me] #14
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And one more piece.

On Crafting
Not sure what they were talking about relating to “crafting” other than we want players long term to be able to make weapons. That won’t be there at launch.
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Click here to go to the next VIP post in this thread.   Old 2011-09-08, 01:00 PM   [Ignore Me] #15
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folks - please relax. this is just bad translation. I have no clue how the guy doing the interview mixed up the part where he asked me what I thought of Blizzard's RMT Auction house. That was not part of the PS2 discussion at all. We have no plans to put anything like that in PS2. The game will be F2P. What form will it be? We're still working that out. But here's a hint - we like League of Legends a lot.

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