The Oracle of Death, Part II - Page 4

phungus · 2013-09-30, 03:24 AM

Originally Posted by MerlO

maradine was going to grab a comparable data set to compare before/after the lock on change

Need to compare after the last hotfix. Right after the lock on change strikers created even more havok because they caused infinite lock on tone - requiring using flares or muting sounds if you didn't have flares/smoke every time they were used against a target!

MGP · 2013-09-30, 03:27 AM

Originally Posted by phungus

Nope, you have to maintain active lock. Just tested it again, I only got hits by keeping the lock, otherwise rocket shot up into the sky and no hit marker or +air defense points.

Yesterday i was using it "like normal".

maradine · 2013-09-30, 12:23 PM

I honestly have no idea what to poll at this point. I've heard a dozen different stories about in what periods what was working as intended or not.

MGP · 2013-09-30, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by maradine

I honestly have no idea what to poll at this point. I've heard a dozen different stories about in what periods what was working as intended or not.

Do the lasher/JH/MCG.

phungus · 2013-09-30, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by maradine

I honestly have no idea what to poll at this point. I've heard a dozen different stories about in what periods what was working as intended or not.

The hotfix just happened, so checking Striker data wol't help.

I would like to see a comparrison of all MBT and Harrasser secondaries, by faction. I think things are more even then the last table posted. Ie I'm fairly certain the Sauron's status as an outlier will be made up by a significantly reduced kill count from VS on the Fury (and maurader for TR). Again I feel like the Vulcan and Saron are fine, they are just both very good at what they do (as is the Fury and Maurader for that matter, but because of how the Saron works I don't think there are nearly as many VS who use a fury as there are NC MBTs or Harrassers that load them).

maradine · 2013-09-30, 03:53 PM

You have been given all the necessary tools to make that happen - go for it!

derito · 2013-09-30, 04:31 PM

Can you have stats per server (the busiest ones at least) ? I'm wondering if there are noticeable differences between them. Should they exist, it might mean servers can have some kind of local metagame. It would need more time to have statistically significant results though.

MerlO · 2013-09-30, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by phungus

The hotfix just happened, so checking Striker data wol't help.

I would like to see a comparrison of all MBT and Harrasser secondaries, by faction.

All harasser secondaries is next on my list, I plan to grab this current weeks data before posting during the weekend.

As for the Striker being unfixed or not - i'm also confused, but i'll grab that at the end of the week as well and check the daily trend.

maradine · 2013-09-30, 09:13 PM

There are a few interesting Striker KPU spikes in the historicals, but we'll need a good understanding of what changed when to make heads or tails of linking cause and effect.

MerlO · 2013-10-02, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by MGP

Do the lasher/JH/MCG.

Here you go! JH and MCG are close on KPU. Hard to compare with the Lasher given it's different functionality.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...2c&usp=sharing

Plaqueis · 2013-10-02, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by MerlO

Here you go! JH and MCG are close on KPU. Hard to compare with the Lasher given it's different functionality.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...2c&usp=sharing

Well, it's supposed to be a supportweapon i guess, just like the other 2.. it just fails in comparison.

maradine · 2013-10-02, 11:32 AM

It fails as a kill producer - no argument there. But, it's also an excellent bridesmaid weapon, producing vast quantities of assists and area denial to boot. Does that make it equal with the others on balance of traits? I don't think we'll ever have the data to make that call. I wouldn't be unhappy with a power boost, but I'm not unhappy with it as it is now.

mrmrmrj · 2013-10-03, 01:49 PM

Not every tool should be judged solely on its kill ability. I love concuss grenades, for example.

Plaqueis · 2013-10-03, 07:20 PM

nvm.

MerlO · 2013-10-05, 08:49 PM

Hi Maradine, would it be possible to provide a query for daily total empire kills? Rather than having to query every weapon and summing...