News: PlanetSide 2 Backstory Henry Briggs Part 2 - Page 4

Atuday · 2011-11-29, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by Higby

I wouldn't ever call the Vanu "Genocidal". They definitely do not care about wiping out any ethnicity or religion, those typically "genocidal" raison d'etre don't apply to the VS at all.

As a Vanu I agree with this idea. We are not racist. We don't care if you are gay. We don't care about your religion. If you are not Vanu, then we care. Then we send in the troops to enlighten. Sadly some people are stuck in their ways. Or follow the teachings of fear mongers. Or think it is cool to be an anarchist. We the Vanu however are not sheeple so we are not victim to such things. We will enlighten the world. Even if we have to burn away a few things first.

Talek Krell · 2011-11-29, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by FastAndFree

He made a guess as to the identity of Vanu, don't take it as a declaration of belief

His emotional reaction to the questioning of his "guess" betrays how invested he was in that conclusion. That and his subsequent declaration that

Vanu was my purpose; my reason for being.

Originally Posted by FastAndFree

And again, the whole emotional thing was a brand new concept to him. That was in fact the first time in his life he could get angry

No, it wasn't. People with Asperger's are not emotionless blocks, something demonstrated nicely by the fact that he spent much of his young adult life raging at the world in general.

Originally Posted by FastAndFree

As a bonus point Higby outright stated that is not the case -thanks again for that-

No, he said that the VS core leadership was not being tricked. First, that's not quite the same as not being manipulated. Second, we don't actually know if Briggs is part of the core leadership. Encouraging? Yes. Case closed? Not so much.

Originally Posted by Atuday

If you are not Vanu, then we care. Then we send in the troops to enlighten.

That would be genocide.

sylphaen · 2011-11-30, 12:44 AM

A lot of you seem to misunderstand Vanu...

Vanu is not a god, Vanu is not some dead "ancient" spirit communicating from beyond, Vanu is not an alien from outer space. Vanu is simply much more than that. These limiting terms are too limiting and cannot accurately what Vanu his.

Vanu is like a vision. Vanu is the force breaking physical barriers between individuals. Vanu is the spirit bridging gaps between beings. Vanu is the force of understanding that can bring unity. Vanu is the force that will liberate human minds from their limitations.

Vanu is a collective individual through each of its parts. Vanu is the brilliance of each one of us multiplied by each other's.

Vanu is oneness of many.

Vanu is the true ideal of humanity.

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Those who understand do not need to be convinced. Those who need to be convinced will not need to understand.

SKYeXile · 2011-11-30, 02:44 AM

Originally Posted by Higby

Great discussion! I can't wait to dig more into the mysteries of Vanu, the Ancients and what it all means. I will say one slight spoiler: the scientists and technicians that form the backbone of the VS are not being hoodwinked, they have knowledge of certain events past and (possible) future that the rest of the factions do not.

TRUE VANU REAPPEAR AS PLAYABLE RACE, YOU HERD IT HERE FIRST!

Talek Krell · 2011-11-30, 04:14 AM

Originally Posted by sylphaen

Vanu is the spirit bridging gaps between beings. Vanu is the force of understanding that can bring unity.

And, what? He just spends his off hours convincing his followers to engage in planetary scale warfare?

Xyntech · 2011-11-30, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by Talek Krell

And, what? He just spends his off hours convincing his followers to engage in planetary scale warfare?

That's the TR and NC leadership your thinking of

Can't very well enlighten anyone when you're blown up

sylphaen · 2011-11-30, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by Talek Krell

And, what? He just spends his off hours convincing his followers to engage in planetary scale warfare?

People who experienced Vanu and the collective conscience know that only Vanu is the true foundation of peace.

Now, are you implying that since the Vanu have found peace within themselves, they should completely ignore the murderous acts of NC/TR troops fueled with hatred instilled by their leaders ?

The Vanu can only echo heartrending sentiments of infinite sadness from the pain felt by each one of us. Do you not realize how painful it is to see you people fighting each other like animals ? Can you not imagine the overwhelming feeling of waste we perceive when each one of you who cannot (or refuses to) understand the Vanu just ends up butchering fellow humans on a battlefield ?

You do not understand. And you are blind. Vanu's sight comes from the heart and its heart is pure.

You cannot realistically expect us to bow down like sheep while two wolves roam freely inside the house of humanity ! The heart of Vanu longs for peace and respect. It longs to free humans from the barriers that plagued them since the beginning of ages.

Vanu will NOT stay silent and watch your atrocities go unpunished. Through its every individual, along their every single heartbeat, pained by sadness and unavoidable sacrifice, but strengthened by hope and peace nonetheless, the Vanu Sovereignty will save humanity.

Our sacrifice is our gift. Our vision is our hope. Together, they are our desperate plea to save a lost humanity.

Xyntech · 2011-12-01, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by sylphaen

Our sacrifice is our gift. Our vision is our hope. Together, they are our desperate plea to save a lost humanity.

You've given up on water and are just eating the kool-aid mix dry, aren't you?

sylphaen · 2011-12-01, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by Xyntech

You've given up on water and are just eating the kool-aid mix dry, aren't you?

LOL

The peace pipe is loaded to the brim with the stuff. I'd even add that after close to 10 years in purple, the constant smog inside the mag is an integral part of the vehicle.

Canaris · 2011-12-02, 04:40 AM

You guys see the new picture of Briggs working on that Vanu statue artifact they found out in the moon belt, man that looks freaking sweet!

HAHA

Graywolves · 2011-12-02, 08:38 AM

As a devout TR....You're all wierd.

I think the story makes VS all that more interesting. Although I'm curious to know where we are in the timeline of things, where's Auraxis and the wormhole and the TR leaders.

I want to know who my Super Overlord is.

-also-

Is a degree in xenobiology really real? I couldn't imagine a stupider degree for anyone to ever get.

"Hey guys, I got this degree based on pure speculation, I don't know what jobs care but isn't this cool?"

I wouldn't even take that guy with me on my expedition. I'd go stargate and take archeologists, cultural experts, bilinguists (like knows every fucking language) and a psychologist.

Traak · 2011-12-04, 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by Atuday

As a Vanu I agree with this idea. We are not racist. We don't care if you are gay.

Well, wiping out gays isn't genocide. Isn't it homocide?

Talek Krell · 2011-12-05, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by Traak

Well, wiping out gays isn't genocide. Isn't it homocide?

. . .
Is there some alternate definition of genocide that says "the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group. Unless of course it's just homosexuals."?

Originally Posted by Graywolves

Is a degree in xenobiology really real? I couldn't imagine a stupider degree for anyone to ever get.

"Hey guys, I got this degree based on pure speculation, I don't know what jobs care but isn't this cool?"

That's....actually that's a pretty good question.

Raka Maru · 2011-12-06, 08:12 AM

RakaMaru's mini chain gun barrel nearly touches the ground as he lets the fog clear from his goggles. His audio amplifier implant registered every word of the Vanu guru's exposition to the mesmerized group encircled around the crystal beverage bowl.

His sniffle behind the trees, cause a few heads to turn just in time for them to witness the full moon sparkle off of the hundreds of shells that fell to the ground; sizzling in the dew, each one, trailing wisps like tiny ghosts... "That was beautiful".

FastAndFree · 2011-12-06, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by Raka Maru

RakaMaru's mini chain gun barrel nearly touches the ground as he lets the fog clear from his goggles. His audio amplifier implant registered every word of the Vanu guru's exposition to the mesmerized group encircled around the crystal beverage bowl.

His sniffle behind the trees, cause a few heads to turn just in time for them to witness the full moon sparkle off of the hundreds of shells that fell to the ground; sizzling in the dew, each one, trailing wisps like tiny ghosts... "That was beautiful".

It works better if you eject only the shell cases, but I guess there is a reason why you are issued simple projectile weapons...