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2012-03-26, 10:21 AM | [Ignore Me] #46 | ||
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Why is chasing someone "a bit much"?
If you saw someone snooping around houses in your neighborhood, and he ran off, and you were a neighborhood watch person, or a citizen, would you think it was inappropriate to chase him?
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2012-03-26, 10:22 AM | [Ignore Me] #47 | |||
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Nope, "They" doesn't make this a hate crime.
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2012-03-26, 11:14 AM | [Ignore Me] #49 | |||
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Not very hard to derive: he is talking about an individual he does not know as being part of a group he labeled criminal. This is called stereotyping. |
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2012-03-26, 11:31 AM | [Ignore Me] #52 | |||
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2012-03-26, 01:50 PM | [Ignore Me] #53 | ||
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So individuals are a multiple now?
"THEY always get away with it", who are "they"? Clearly not this one guy? Then he'd say "he", THEN it'd be a mere substitute. Instead, he refers to a group. So who are "they" if not "people who break the law" ie. criminals? Because in this context, "they" are people who are getting away with things. Note that at this point, the boy had not been up to anything yet, he had not "attacked" (or "defended", depending on perspective) anyone, nor stole anything or broke any other law. So. At the very least this guy was paranoid, but something must have triggered that paranoia. As he had nothing to go on but appearance at first glance (he had not confronted him, nothing of the sort yet)... I'd say that smells of stereotype. In his mind, the boy must have been up to no good (clearly), regardless if he had done anything at that point merely based on appearance. That is prejudice. If prejudice is at least part of the motive, it can be considered a "hate crime", though I wouldn't go as far to say it's a racist crime. More like hate against (perhaps fear of, or at the very least an unhealthy weariness of) a particular sub-culture. Last edited by Figment; 2012-03-26 at 02:02 PM. |
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2012-03-26, 02:51 PM | [Ignore Me] #54 | ||
I'm sure we're all very surprised.
An armed man ran after an unarmed guy, shot him dead, and claimed self-defense. If this is legal in Florida, then Florida is just as fucked up as all the jokes suggest it is. People should not be legally entitled to murder strangers who pose no threat to them. |
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2012-03-27, 02:23 PM | [Ignore Me] #55 | |||||||||
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So Warborn, are you done swallowing that shit-flavored media pill?
If so, go ahead and see the other side of the story: http://patdollard.com/2012/03/was-tr...ng-gangbanger/
Nice gold teeth there bro. You're definitely a model citizen. This is the kid Obama wishes his son would look like? LOL
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2012-03-27, 03:10 PM | [Ignore Me] #57 | ||
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Yes, becuase a person had a few trivial crimes under his belt we should shrug and walk away when someone shoots that person. Judge, jury and executioner. All while not knowing a single thing about that person.
I hope you dont have any speeding tickets, your murderer will get to walk free then. Last edited by Vash02; 2012-03-27 at 03:15 PM. |
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2012-03-27, 04:59 PM | [Ignore Me] #59 | ||
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Do you know what character is? We were given an image, by the media, of a kid who couldn't possible attack Zimmerman and force him to defend himself. Every single piece of media is painting this guy as a good kid. Shamelessly using this guys picture from when he was 12 years old, stating that he isn't the violent type and would never start a fight.
Now we figure out he punched his busdriver, sells drugs, was taken out of school for possessing stolen jewelry, and is a typical "gangsta thug". Seems to me the whole "little angel" image has been shattered. If you don't believe a history of violence and theft is relevant you are deliberately biased and should be ignored. Last edited by ArcIyte; 2012-03-27 at 05:06 PM. |
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2012-03-27, 05:16 PM | [Ignore Me] #60 | |||
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You cannot gun down anyone who you think looks suspicous in the street. Civilised society does not work like that. Last edited by Vash02; 2012-03-27 at 05:18 PM. |
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