Planetside 2: FPS vs RTS

[Hamma]

So.. did you mean to use the term RTS? I'm not so sure it fits what you are asking..

[Mastachief]

Originally Posted by alienmoose

I want to hold your face down in a plate of spaghetti

^^ this

Violetzero, i encourage you to try Planetside first it will give you a better understand of what the veteran player have played and why we tend to think as we do.

Your poll option doesn't offer and option i would choose.

3rd option, MMO Persistant world FPS based on team work with tanks, planes and other such vehicles.

[NewSith]

...and so PSU started to turn into Official PlanetSide Forum...


Stop being dicks, gentlemen. I know it's all cool to be all high'n'mighty over the internet but I always liked this forum for being rather friendly and for constructive posts.

Hamma delete this thread please. Too much bile in one thread here.

EDIT Hell, people didn't even read the OP here...

[Figment]

PlanetSide has always been largely in the area "World of Command & Conquer" considering its setup is not like "World of Random Pew Pew". It's not random, it's strategic and in real time, but it's still a FPS none the less.

Why should there be a split? We use strategy and combined arms on large scale numbers and we do this from a predominantly FPS perspective. It's both and we, as a community, enjoy the elements that makes both unique.

So it's both. Where can I vote both in the poll options?

[dai shan]

Originally Posted by NewSith

...and so PSU started to turn into Official PlanetSide Forum...


Stop being dicks, gentlemen.

qft

a lot of people not being reasonable at all here -- it's just a thread for discussion, for christs sake

[Xaine]

Originally Posted by Raymac

No, no, no.

FPS games like COD, BF, and Halo all have scripted events to make it seem like you are part of a larger epic battle. In Planetside, you actually ARE part of a larger epic battle. That's the draw.

The sheer scale of Planetside lends itself to certain RTS elements, but it is and always should be an FPS first. Not every FPS game is Team Deathmatch. Objective based matches are not too dissimilar from Planetside apart from the scale. K/D really only matters in Team Deathmatches.

When i say i prefer the RTS side of it, i mean the back-hacking, gen holding, gal dropping, LLU running, mod stealing, ghost hacking etc etc that set Planetside apart from other FPS games.

I love the FPS parts of Planetside, i really do. But when someone says 'FPS features' i instantly go to CoD, Battlefield etc. Which to me, is arena FPS with people jumping round corners spraying akimbo weapons, bunnyhopping around like idiots. I want to keep Planetside as FAR away from that as i possibly can.

[ringring]

Ditto everyone above who commented on the fps/rts 'false' choice. Just make it Planetside for me.

However, anything to increase player tact who be good.

[Scrima]

It's an MMOFPS, not an MMORTS... you cannot compare this to a 1000 player Command and Conquer but you can compare it to a 1000 player Battlefield, just with a bigger world, more players, more tactics/strategy and hopefully less idiots.

[ThGlump]

Its just all confusion from wrongly naming chosen types that make ppl mad in this thread.

So little translation what it mean:
"FPS" - its all about killing and k/d, focus on solo players to have fun, ideal for kill whores.
"RTS" - focused on teamplay, using tactic has higher impact than your FPS skill

We all know ps is the second type (and hopefully PS2 too), but dont call planetside RTS

[VioletZero]

Originally Posted by Gortha

RTS!? WTF? You know what Real Time Strategy Games are?

Games about strategy in real time?

[Warborn]

Using the term RTS typically conjures up images of building bases and commanding units into battle. In that case I guess they could have some of those elements tied to leadership skills. I don't know what their plans are but that wouldn't be too far-fetched.

What I think you meant to ask is whether it should be a sort of "realistic" shooter like the early Ghost Recon games, or World War 2 Online, or ArmA, or whether it should be a more casual-player-friendly. Your terms here are really confusing people because even a hardcore FPS game is still an FPS game, and even a more casual FPS game (like Teamfortress 2) is still an FPS game.

It's also important to note that providing a game that is fun to play but also offers a lot of depth are not mutually exclusive properties. The games that are good are the ones that offer both, and it's what the PS2 developers will no doubt strive to achieve. I don't believe anyone here seriously thinks the game should sacrifice "fun to play" in favour of having more strategic depth. That's the kind of game EVE Online is, and it is a very, very niche title.

[Raymac]

Originally Posted by ThGlump

Its just all confusion from wrongly naming chosen types that make ppl mad in this thread.

So little translation what it mean:
"FPS" - its all about killing and k/d, focus on solo players to have fun, ideal for kill whores.
"RTS" - focused on teamplay, using tactic has higher impact than your FPS skill

We all know ps is the second type (and hopefully PS2 too), but dont call planetside RTS

I think this is a good explanation of the misconception. (if there is one)

Yes, Planetside is very much a team based, objective based shooter where working together to accomplish a specific goal is more important than your k/d ratio.

However RTS is a whole different genre of game so it's not a great term to use. It's like saying Saving Private Ryan is a horror movie because it has some blood and gore.

[Warborn]

Originally Posted by ThGlump

Its just all confusion from wrongly naming chosen types that make ppl mad in this thread.

So little translation what it mean:
"FPS" - its all about killing and k/d, focus on solo players to have fun, ideal for kill whores.
"RTS" - focused on teamplay, using tactic has higher impact than your FPS skill

We all know ps is the second type (and hopefully PS2 too), but dont call planetside RTS

Planetside 1 was either depending on your preference. Sometimes you'd do stuff with your outfit and have specific goals in mind, sometimes you'd just log on for 15 minutes and shoot some dudes for fun. Either way of playing is perfectly acceptable, and there's little doubt PS2 will function in a similar fashion.

[PrISM]

Planetside as a whole isn't about whether it should be a FPS, RTS, MMO or whatever. It also isn't about how players should play; they shouldn't play for K/D ratios, they should play for the tactics, they should play for the good of their empire or anything else like that. The beauty of Planetside is that you can play all of those things, none of those things or anything in between.

[Figment]

Just for the record, people who think all RTS genre is limited to games like Age of Empires, Starcraft, Ultimate Commander and C&C forget that even games like Europa Universalis III and most other games by Paradox Interactive fall into this category. They are far closer to board games like Risk, yet they are also Real Time Strategy because all players are active at the same time. The Total War series is turn based with RTS elements during battles. So is ETW turn based strategy or RTS, or is it simply both?

There's no need to limit the definition and why wouldn't there be such a thing as a MMORTSFPS? You select units to use in order to conquer bases and gather resources in PS. These are FAR from typical FPS elements and very typical RTS elements. It is both. End off. Don't be narrowminded to think it's only one and that they are two strictly seperately identifiable things.

In fact, you could even claim that PlanetSide is a RPG, because we got a leveling system and huge faction loyalty that transcends mere competition between players. So what if you'd call it a MMORTSFPSRPG? Would it be very far from the truth?


In many industries, they call such a thing where you can't quite name it a crossover. PlanetSide is a game genre crossover that takes a lot of elements out of many typical genres.