Should PS2 have a Russian server? - Page 4

Nasher · 2012-06-16, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by Mechzz

So how do other big MMOs handle this?

Take a newish MMO like SWTOR. They have English, French and German for Europe. Then US servers. Theres no region locks so you can pick any you like. But the lack of Russian means you get Russian guilds on English servers where only some of their members speak English. They keep themselves to themselves, but I'd hate to play on a server where I couldnt talk to 99% of the population.

Eastern Europe and Scandinavian countries almost always play on English servers, even when they get their own for some reason. But they all speak fluent English :P

Meriv · 2012-06-16, 09:47 AM

IMO
I disagree with local language servers, at least from countries where there is a high chance that they have learned english or at least inglish level, i would like to play with different cultures to met new ppl, soo excludiing ex-French speaking colonies (that i think got more serius problems than to play ps2) i would be not putting local language server for Germany/France/Italy/spain. Except if there is a realy big difference like with the Russian or Turk or indi etc..etc.. that alone have quite the big population and who does know english normaly join an english speaking server

velleity · 2012-06-16, 09:49 AM

Speakers of Germanic languages invariably cheat and talk funny. Especially Frisian. Hope those bastards get their own Frisian-only ghetto server instead of crapping up my comms with their animal grunting.

Mechzz · 2012-06-16, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by Nasher

Take a newish MMO like SWTOR. They have English, French and German for Europe. Then US servers. Theres no region locks so you can pick any you like. But the lack of Russian means you get Russian guilds on English servers where only some of their members speak English.

Originally Posted by Meriv

IMO
I disagree with local language servers, at least from countries where there is a high chance that they have learned english or at least inglish level, i would like to play with different cultures to met new ppl, soo excludiing ex-French speaking colonies (that i think got more serius problems than to play ps2) i would be not putting local language server for Germany/France/Italy/spain. Except if there is a realy big difference like with the Russian or Turk or indi etc..etc.. that alone have quite the big population and who does know english normaly join an english speaking server

Thanks Nasher, that setup makes a lot of sense.

Meriv,the point isn't to exclude people, but really, if I can't speak Spanish, why would I go and play on a Spanish server? No-one is going to give me the time of day.

I say - If you can speak enough of the language to play on a server, then you should be able to play on it.

But if you don't have that language, there should be another server you can play on without putting yourself at a disadvantage.

The only way I can see mixed-language servers working is if each language gets forced to a faction. So English = NC, German = TR, Russian = VS

Meriv · 2012-06-16, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by velleity

Speakers of Germanic languages invariably cheat and talk funny. Especially Frisian. Hope those bastards get their own Frisian-only ghetto server instead of crapping up my comms with their animal grunting.

They are quite the small population, how many players from them can you find toghether, they have a real life population under the 500k quota...... (frisian)

capiqu · 2012-06-16, 10:07 AM

Would it be possible for gamers to have an in-game language(s) selection option. So if I want Spanish as well as English I can set my game to Spanish and English or maybe to Spanish only. I think this would help with the spamming from different languages that I can't Read.

Mechzz · 2012-06-16, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by capiqu

Would it be possible for gamers to have an in-game language(s) selection option. So if I want Spanish as well as English I can set my game to Spanish and English or maybe to Spanish only. I think this would help with the spamming from different languages that I can't Read.

You could, but I think forcing different languages to different factions would help gameplay on mixed language servers enormously. What do you think?

capiqu · 2012-06-16, 10:18 AM

Well i don't know enough just a casual planetside player here and I've been Emerald from the start. So aside from the mandarin globals of recent years I would have no idea what playing in a mix language server would be like. I just think allowing people to select languages or to just keep their game open to all would be a nice option.

Mastachief · 2012-06-16, 10:22 AM

please god yes

Mechzz · 2012-06-16, 10:22 AM

I agree, it is a nice option. The only drawback is that in Europe with so many languages you can easily end up not understanding half of what your side is saying in the game, which does not improve the gameplay experience.

Just trying to think of ways to handle it without "ghettoising" people.

I SandRock · 2012-06-16, 10:54 AM

A really old small-time MMO I used to play, The Fourth Coming, had a 'chatbot'. It scanned the chat for swearing and foreign language and would chat-ban you for x, x2, x3, x4 etc. hours if it detected you swearing or not speaking english in public chat.

I'd like to see something like that.

In World of Warcraft you just had English/German/French. After a few months on Warsong the russians were the majority of population and you couldn't find a group or play without speaking russian. Even though it was suppose to be an English server. You have this with swedish, dutch, german, french, italian etc. players too, though I find that more often Russians do not speak English well and there are way more of them, making it a larger problem. Plus the cheat statistics...

I think it's better to make a Russian-language planetside 2 site, where you download a Russian planetside 2 client, which region-locks you to Russian servers. For those Russian players who speak English and PURPOSEFULLY desire to play on an English server can go to the English website and download the normal EU Client and play on EU servers without a problem.
I think those players who choose to play on English servers will speak good enough English and are of a different mentally, they will also join International outfits, mix in, etc.

Again I have nothing against Russians its just that it seems to always collide when you're in-game.

Originally Posted by Joe

Then it looks like the Beta and the final game are the only things they could use. The FB app has shown me that balancing all the different empires will be hard (if it relates to the final game in anyway). I don't know how they will do it NC needs more people...

I'm not concerned with balance that much. In DAoC and PS1 simply having three empires balanced things out. If 1 empire is big, the other two smaller empires will tend to work together to take them down.

Hobitt · 2012-06-16, 11:01 AM

This kind of insults me NOT ALL RUSSIAN PLAYERS ARE @SSHOLES these stereotypes getting old then lets separate european servers on western eastern and south and american servers into north and south

I SandRock · 2012-06-16, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by Hobitt

This kind of insults me NOT ALL RUSSIAN PLAYERS ARE @SSHOLES these stereotypes getting old then lets separate european servers on western eastern and south and american servers into north and south

I don't think anyone is claiming that all Russians are assholes, at all. It just seems that the majority of Russian players in F2P games seem to not speak english and there is precedent for the claim they are more likely to exploit/hack. I understand it sucks when you are from russia and you speak English and play fair and square and you feel bunched in with the assholes of your country, but that's not the intention here.

It's also because those who speak english aren't seen as Russian (or french, german etc) but as English. You don't know what country of Europe i'm from either, because I'm speaking English. So perhaps it's more a case of Russian-speaking players rather than 'Russians'.

Pella · 2012-06-16, 11:07 AM

It gets heavy as SOE will have to release game updates/patches to separate clients. Then you need a translator. So they dont go running around in a max called a penis tree.

logistically it can be a pain in the arse. But im sure we will know soon enough.

Hobitt · 2012-06-16, 11:08 AM

I dont live in russia but russians are always labeled even in real life most of the time its not true. I want to say that players should not be labeled by race or nationality