The Planetside armaments predicament that�s plaguing us today

[12tontuna]

With the Heavy Assault Cert, why not have empire specific weaponry, as there is now....AND a common pool of 3 more like the Spec Assault line.

Like that Flamethrower, maybe a Quake Style Lighting Gun thing (does an EMP like blast, screws up maxes, vehicles) and perhaps a super plasma cloud spewing thing.

Or something.


BTW, I've been smoked at 30m by a n00bhammer. I had a lasher, and never seem to hit them enough. In closer, it's no contest...at all.

The MCG needs it's COF tightened...and maybe a secondary fire mode, that places it stationary and the fires REAL fast...allowing the creation of true choke points.

The Lasher projectiles needs to go MUCH faster than they do. I've been NC, TR and VS...I'm least afraid of the lasher.

[Cyber]

third I saw a few posts saying that the jackhammer needs to be nerfed because 90% or something of NC are using it. Well then we damn well better nerf the cycler because I see tons of Terrans using it and that gun will rip you apart too...

This point has probably already been made, but I haven't had time to read the whole thread so:

Cycler is not a heavy assault weapon. It's the empire specific medium assault weapon.

For a mere 2 cert points you get 3(!) good guns.

It's a cert nearly everyone will have. And 90% of the population could be (and should be) using these guns and guess what - it would be fine. A TON of people should be using them.

You can tell there's a problem with the NC though when the number of jackhammers > the number of guass rifles by a signficant margin.

The gauss should be the mainstay weapon for the NC with most squads equipted with that and other medium assault weapons backing up thier special assault or AV weapon with a few heavy assault guys. As it stands now the typical NC squad is something like 8 jackhammer users, a galaxy pilot and a guy who hasn't heard of the jackhammer yet.

:P

The same reasoning can be used on the Pulsar. It's underpowered because a horde of VS aren't using it. They're using the Punisher. It's been getting better though and I think this next minor tweak will fix the problem.

[Happy lil Elf]

I'm spending four certs, that's more than anything else in the game other than a reaver, for one god damned gun. It had better be able to kick the shit out of any medium or special assault weapon in the environment it's desinged for.

Since you only get one gun, you get no versatility with the cert. You get that gun and what that gun is capable of is all you get. For med assault you get not only 3 weapons all 3 of which are useful in various situations, but you get other certs opened up to you. For only 2 certs.

If I'm paying double that for only one gun, again, it better be something scary.

[Ducimus]

Originally posted by OneManArmy
Maybe, Mr. Recruit, if you pulled your head out of your ass for one second you might realize that some people aren�t playing empire favorites here,....blah blah blah blah blah..

Who the hell are you trying to kid? Now grab your frosty mug of STFU and chug it down already.

[Infernus]

Originally posted by Plato
I'll take a flamethrower! Smurfs and barnies on fire running around until they collapse in smokey heaps of cinders. I'll trade in the MCG for that

I'll trade in the MCG for anything that kills... but wait, I already did. Cycler Rocks! And the 4 cert points bought me a Mosquito. So now I get to fly everywhere and rip reavers to pieces. Works for me!

[Duffman]

there was goin to be a flame thrower but the polys said no.

Originally posted by OneManArmy
The NC are heavy hitters we have the guns that pack a strong punch, fucking deal with it. Learn to use your empires strengths, and if you can't find any than either look harder or complain to the devs about making your weapons better not killing everyone else�s..

ummm why do you "heavy hitters" have weapons like the guass and the pheniox that kill at long range. Thats why teh jackhammer is over powered not just becuase if it but becasue of the fact that if you are at long range you can just pull out the guass or phenix.

I will use the example of the DP max and the DC max which are only good inside becasue outside you cant lock down without being run over adn the range on them suck. The kicker is that they can switch to teh phenix to own at long range they have to stay cin CQC to live and tehy still got nerfed so teh jackhammer nerf is coming if the devs follow their prevous nerfing examples.

[The President]

Originally posted by Infernus1080
I'll trade in the MCG for anything that kills... but wait, I already did. Cycler Rocks! And the 4 cert points bought me a Mosquito. So now I get to fly everywhere and rip reavers to pieces. Works for me!

Nice to see people choosing the Skeeter over the Reaver. I can't wait to see how the new additions especially the Skyguard and the Liberator affect things. Will be interesting.

-The President

[Onizuka]

I really think all nerfing should be stopped... i mean, the TR maxs were nerfed the end... its over. The game is pretty balanced by now

by the way: is that a "hot" cup of stfu?

[OneManArmy]

well considering the phoenix can only stay in the air for 5-6 seconds, flys slow as shit in a snow storm, and takes forever to reload I wouldnt exactally call it owning long distance..... not when a striker can lock on from friggen anywehre and pop off three shots before you even see the missle lock.... hmm...

[Duffman]

Originally posted by Onizuka
I really think all nerfing should be stopped... i mean, the TR maxs were nerfed the end... its over. The game is pretty balanced by now

hmm o yeah you are a NC

[ZionsFire]

NAH YA THINK! idiots all of u except for onizuka and MJBUDDY OF COURS

[Warborn]

Originally posted by OneManArmy
well considering the phoenix can only stay in the air for 5-6 seconds, flys slow as shit in a snow storm, and takes forever to reload I wouldnt exactally call it owning long distance..... not when a striker can lock on from friggen anywehre and pop off three shots before you even see the missle lock.... hmm...

The Phoenix travels faster than whatever you want to hit (unless it's after-burning), which is good enough. It also hits much harder than a Striker, and won't miss if your aim is obstructed by a tree or whatever, as the Striker is.

Also, the Striker's lock-on range is not your view distance. It's a fair bit inside. And even then, if ANYTHING gets between your crosshairs and the target, the missile reverts to dumbfire and continues on its previous heading, likely hitting into the ground or a terrain feature if you were trying to hit a land based target.

Anyway, the Phoenix is better for hitting things on the ground, the Striker for hitting things in the air. They both have their strengths and weaknesses. I still think the Phoenix is more fun to use though.

[Knuckles]

I'm spending four certs, that's more than anything else in the game other than a reaver, for one god damned gun. It had better be able to kick the shit out of any medium or special assault weapon in the environment it's desinged for.

Since you only get one gun, you get no versatility with the cert. You get that gun and what that gun is capable of is all you get. For med assault you get not only 3 weapons all 3 of which are useful in various situations, but you get other certs opened up to you. For only 2 certs.

If I'm paying double that for only one gun, again, it better be something scary.

Precisely my thoughts too.

... The only difference is that You get Your full value for those four points, while VS (and TR) don't.

I must confess I'm getting tired of people from other factions telling me everything from "use better tactics", "bring a friend if You want to kill the enemy" to "learn to use Your weapon, noob". I could go on a ranting stomp right here, that would surpass everything You've seen so far, on how much these remarks annoys me.

But I'm not going to do that. Instead I'm going to suggest the following:

Create a new VS character on a server of Your choice (*). Do the VR tour and come out with 6 brand new BR points to spend. Buy the Medium Assault cert. Buy the Heavy Assault Cert. Create a new favourite consisting of Agile Armour, a Lasher, ammo, hacking tool, some grenades and fill up with medi packs. Then go out there to "see what You can see"...

After a while it will begin to dawn on You. I assure You, it will.

- You'll be tought a stirn lesson in humility and flawed game design.


(*): Doesn't work that well for europeans since we only have 1 server over here. Playing on US servers is hardly an option for us since lag/ping plays a big role in PS.

[12tontuna]

Precisely my thoughts too.

... The only difference is that You get Your full value for those four points, while VS (and TR) don't.

I must confess I'm getting tired of people from other factions telling me everything from "use better tactics", "bring a friend if You want to kill the enemy" to "learn to use Your weapon, noob". I could go on a ranting stomp right here, that would surpass everything You've seen so far, on how much these remarks annoys me.

But I'm not going to do that. Instead I'm going to suggest the following:

Create a new VS character on a server of Your choice (*). Do the VR tour and come out with 6 brand new BR points to spend. Buy the Medium Assault cert. Buy the Heavy Assault Cert. Create a new favourite consisting of Agile Armour, a Lasher, ammo, hacking tool, some grenades and fill up with medi packs. Then go out there to "see what You can see"...

After a while it will begin to dawn on You. I assure You, it will.

- You'll be tought a stirn lesson in humility and flawed game design.



I've been on all sides of the fence. EXACTLY my thoughts.

[Yogi]

Originally posted by ghost018
Heavy Assault is worth 4 cert points for a reason. The weapons should be powerful. The Jackhammer is really affective and I'm okay with that...I'm not sure about the Vanu Heavy Assault weapon, but the Mini-ChainGun really really really really REALLY isn't worth a damn. Until it's improved, I'll continue looting Jackhammers to use against their makers.

ghost

Everyone in my outfit who has a HA cert has it simply to loot jackhammers.

Edit: Not only that but I see the VS doing that as well. Last night we were in a battle with some VS who came at us with jackhammers, it was pretty funny.