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Old 2003-07-29, 01:12 PM   [Ignore Me] #46
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Just scroll up two posts where I explained what I meant... a second time.
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Old 2003-07-29, 01:13 PM   [Ignore Me] #47
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Originally posted by Pyro212
This all could of been avoided if they would have better listened to the communtity.
We asked for faster moving orbs they gave us faster ROF.
WE didn't want faster ROF.
Go back to the old lasher just make the orbs move faster and make it lash more.
amen...but you know the devs never, ever listen to the community. We post our ideas, and they do the exact opposite of what we want.
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Old 2003-07-29, 01:48 PM   [Ignore Me] #48
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Originally posted by Cease
Just scroll up two posts where I explained what I meant... a second time.
If you had actually explained anything in that post I wouldn't have to reply for a second time. Since you didn't even know it was me that you replied to I think we should just end it here. Good day to you...
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Old 2003-07-29, 02:06 PM   [Ignore Me] #49
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Ok I'll put it really simple for you....

People have a problem with the damage the Lasher does vs Armor. We aren't making it up. This isn't a conspiracy. There isn't a Lancer gunman behind the grassy knoll shooting at our Maxes that we don't know about. Some of us have a good idea what ONE lasher can do vs Armor.

And the Devs have been playing on the Live servers for the past few days specifically in regards to the Lasher. So they aren't just taking our word for it... they are seeing it first hand themselves.

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Old 2003-07-29, 02:54 PM   [Ignore Me] #50
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Originally posted by Pyro212
This all could of been avoided if they would have better listened to the communtity.
We asked for faster moving orbs they gave us faster ROF.
WE didn't want faster ROF.
Go back to the old lasher just make the orbs move faster and make it lash more.
you just don't fucking get it, do you? the devs WANT it to be an effective CLOSE-RANGE WEAPON. CLOSE-RANGE ONLY. faster orbs = effective at long range. BAD. and lash MORE? listen, i have an alt that uses exclusively the lasher, and it's easy enough to kill someone you don't even have LOS to. they're making the damage degrade so that it becomes a CLOSE RANGE WEAPON.

it doesn't matter what you want, because that's not what it's meant for. i'm sure lots of us terrans WANT the repeater to one-hit-kill everybody. but that wouldn't be balanced, now would it?

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Old 2003-07-29, 03:07 PM   [Ignore Me] #51
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Old 2003-07-29, 03:23 PM   [Ignore Me] #52
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Originally posted by Katanaboy
I'm not complaining, i know the lasher is overpowered, but i'm just wondering, even with all the jackhammer threads (pre-patch), howcome they never lowered its damage on the test server?
I was wondering that. How come after a week's whining the Lasher gets nerfed, while during six weeks whining about an equally over-powered n00bhammer not a whisper..
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Old 2003-07-29, 03:41 PM   [Ignore Me] #53
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Originally posted by Sleepwalker
you just don't fucking get it, do you? the devs WANT it to be an effective CLOSE-RANGE WEAPON. CLOSE-RANGE ONLY. faster orbs = effective at long range. BAD. and lash MORE? listen, i have an alt that uses exclusively the lasher, and it's easy enough to kill someone you don't even have LOS to. they're making the damage degrade so that it becomes a CLOSE RANGE WEAPON.

it doesn't matter what you want, because that's not what it's meant for. i'm sure lots of us terrans WANT the repeater to one-hit-kill everybody. but that wouldn't be balanced, now would it?

JESUS.
You apprently never bothered to use the lasher before it got beefed. I imagine you just made an alt so you could bitch about how overpowered it was after the patch.

The original lasher hardly ever lashed, and when it did lash it was for a WHOPING 1 or 2 damage.
And about the range, i beleve you assume you know what the devs want. The lasher is not a close range weapon, the jackhammer is a close range weapon. It is a close-medium range weapon. Well maybe medium is going too far, lets just say its not supposed to be an extreme closeup weapon like the jackhammer.

Before the patch you were lucky to hit at extreme close range becasue the orbs were so easy to dodge. Increasing the orb speed would stop people from dancing away from the orbs and giggling in our direction. It would not greatly increase the range of the weapon because at longer ranges it would still be easy to do the ol' dance and giggle routine. And it wouldn't own MAXes and vehicles, leaving the malcontent forum posters to find something else to whine about.
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Old 2003-07-29, 04:11 PM   [Ignore Me] #54
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Okay. Have been reading as many of these Lasher threads as I care to read. I have played as TR NC and VS. I know that you all are bitching about the Lasher. "it's over powered". "It really sucks". I have used them before. I hate the orb speed from a user point of view. I hate the damage from a target point of view. Here is a wonderful idea for the devs. Since everyone wants to be equal. Make the damn weapons to same. Simply solution, just change the look of the rounds as they are fired. That will balance the playing field. I do understand the VS about the Lasher susks. Yeah it does sometimes. I have used and like and hate it. The only thing is there are plenty of other weapons out there if it sucks. From the target end God does it ever suck to come up against someone with a lasher.

So here you go......."DEVS EVEN THE PLAYING FIELD BY MAKING EVERYONE THE SAME"

Take a look at med assault. Everyone has a different type rifle but all in all they are the same. Fire at about the same speed, sure TR faster, then VS, then NC. Do about the same amount of damage, sure NC, TR, VS. All can fire standard and AP rounds, sure VS, TR, NC. All the round move at the same speed. So if you look at Med assault you can see the playing field is balanced. Keep this same idea and move it over to HA. There problem solved. Oh here is another Idea stick to the story behind it all. The TR stuck to Faster firing weapons, the NC more bang for your buck, VS more techno.

Wolf

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