Surge Thoughts

[Vick]

Spam weapons suck.

JH, MCG, lasher, reaver rockets, pounder = spam, no skill involved

I dont get killed by that stuff alot anymore, but when I do, it is lame. Why should I be killed by a player who just holds down his mouse button and points next to me?

If HA weapons were better then MA, but were not spam, I would be happy.

[321]

Originally Posted by Otis

I guess the NC will have to think of a new tactic becouse there will be NO more flying around with Jackhammers baby, NO MORE!

They are discussing it. They aren't sure yet.

[Eldanesh]

I would advocate that after the warping is fixed, no further action be taken.

Why you say? Well, the restrictions on HA would be nice, (I kinda like the Rexo requirement for HA.) however to change too much at once would probably result in a really crappy weapon option that few people would use. (Think of the lasher Mk2, would you say they buffed too much at once? Well, just don't nerf HA too much. )

Now, if they do put in the Rexo requirement for HA I will probably find it harder to get a lot of kills... Rexo w/ sweeper I LOVE agile HA because they die so easily. (I fear Rexo with cycler more than some guy surging around with MCG. )

In any case, I have really not noticed this alleged problem with HA, I see gauss/pulsars/cyclers just as often as JH/lasher/MCG. Most of the times when I see someone trying to jump around w/ HA they get wasted in seconds anyway. If they do make Rexo a prerequisite for HA then I hope them make it 2 certs. then I can get a reaver!

[Warborn]

Originally Posted by Eldanesh

I would advocate that after the warping is fixed, no further action be taken.

Why you say? Well, the restrictions on HA would be nice, (I kinda like the Rexo requirement for HA.) however to change too much at once would probably result in a really crappy weapon option that few people would use.

Maybe it's just me, but I would actually be very happy if HA weapons became rare. I wouldn't mind some pretty heft restrictions on such powerful weapons at all.

[TeraHertz]

I use HA. Alot. Today I tried using just a sweeper/pulsar/deci loadout, and did pretty well. Suddenly though, the enemy switched from Rexo/MCG to Agile/Surge/MCG to combat me and the sweeper and pulsar became uselss, forcing me to switch back to lasher.

Using the lasher all the time is getting old now. I'm BR17 and looking to use something else, but nothing else cuts it against these surging fools unless I go agile surge myself. I am seriously considering not returing after the holidays.

[Hamma]

Originally Posted by Warborn

Maybe it's just me, but I would actually be very happy if HA weapons became rare. I wouldn't mind some pretty heft restrictions on such powerful weapons at all.

/signed

[Queensidecastle]

I agree with Hamma. From the begining I was against the Heavy assault buff. They should have just nerfed the Jackhammer down to an acceptable level as opposed to buffing all the HA to instagib level. If I wanted to play instagibs, I could load UT and have at it, but noooo, they wouldnt listen and made HA way to powerfull. Part of the downside of this was that MAX suits became a joke. Except for Vanu, MAX suits are a joke. Sure thier killing power is fine, but its barely better and in some cases worse than a Rexo/HA/SA. MAXs should be the "heavy assault" on the battlefield, but in stead HA was buffed to MAX effectivness with no MAX suit limitations. Now currently with how easily MAXs get owned by decimators, they really only rock as AA troopers.

[Zatrais]

I vote for 2 and 3. Sick of surgermonkeys.

[BadAsh]

Originally Posted by Queensidecastle

but noooo, they wouldnt listen and made HA way to powerfull. Part of the downside of this was that MAX suits became a joke. Except for Vanu, MAX suits are a joke. Sure thier killing power is fine, but its barely better and in some cases worse than a Rexo/HA/SA. MAXs should be the "heavy assault" on the battlefield, but in stead HA was buffed to MAX effectivness with no MAX suit limitations. Now currently with how easily MAXs get owned by decimators, they really only rock as AA troopers.

Worse than Rexo/HA/SA? I should hope so...

MAX = 3 cert points for an AI MAX

Rexo/HA/SA = 12 cert points (including the MA pre-req)

I should hope the guy who invested 12 cert points in being heavy infantry would out fight the guy who invested just 3.

BadAsh

[Flammey]

I got a solution. We'll give everyone bows and arrows. TR will be the Indians, NC will be the Americans, and VS will be the British. We'll all have a grand old time.

[TeraHertz]

NC arrows are uber! They have no travel time! Nerf the Natives!

[Queensidecastle]

Worse than Rexo/HA/SA? I should hope so...

MAX = 3 cert points for an AI MAX

Rexo/HA/SA = 12 cert points (including the MA pre-req)

I should hope the guy who invested 12 cert points in being heavy infantry would out fight the guy who invested just 3.

Nah, the MAX cant do anything but shoot. Hell, they cant even open doors for gosh sakes. The limitations placed on them by thier suits more than makes up for the specialized cert costs.

[_-Gunslinger-_]

Im very curiouse about ppl opinions on encumberance? Gerbil did a nice job of elaborating on the idea.

I agree with the concept (but not the numbers, weight values, and max weight capacity). I would only change the fact that there should be a minimum weight value. While under this weight value you incure no emcumberance.

[Aen]

Option #3 is the best for the game. IMO.

But would that take my boomer away from me?

Edit: Also with #3, that would almost guarantee more tactical strikes and more use of MA. Alot more cover fire then shoot, etc....

[flypengy]

If you can't hold a JH while surging SOE will effectively have gimped the NC HA which requires you to close in on the enemy to be used effectively.

Instead of causing more frustrations with HA, they need to just fix the client side prediction coding...