Weapon of Choice - Page 4

Retroactive · 2004-05-03, 06:57 PM

JetRaiden · 2004-05-03, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by Firefly

Having lived a fairly adventurous and active military career, I can safely say I can, could, and/or have used most of the standard arms you might see. I am also amazed at the Hollywood-brainwashed stupidity of some people here. The Calico is a piece of shit. Its sales sucked balls for a reason. Because the weapon sucked balls. Why do you think they went out of business? It might be pretty and spacey... but it fires like a two year old girl.

Uh... negative. Its earlier variant the LAND WARRIOR system altogether weighed around a hundred pounds, I believe. The OICW is a scaled-down more-effective version made by like seventeen different companies (they each have a piece to make). Try doing your homework before you go farting off at the mouth.

I believe in stopping power versus fancy artsy-fartsy garbage. Berettas are "handy" because they are cheap, dime-a-dozen, and fire a standard-size munition. Every dime-store hood and cheap ghetto "gangsta" has one... that's part of the problem. if they all have them and there are so many shootings, why do so many of them still exist? I'll tell you why. The 9mm round itself is a piece of shit. Why do you think TR sucks? You can hit a guy with a 9mil and unless you head-shot him, chances are he's going to get up and beat the fuck out of you. And you'd deserve it.

Stopping power puts down your enemies. Lots of lead does not. You can fire a magazine of 9mil at a target and, perhaps if G'd was smiling on you and wanted you to go home and see your little girl, you'd walk away. Big-bore pistols. Don't give me that Desert Eagle shit... that's overkill. If you can stand without your arms shaking after that, if you can fucking HEAR after firing the seven-round magazine, you don't need a gun. It's a heavy-hitting weapon, made mainly for sporting and target shooting... because unless you're shooting engine blocks on semi rigs, it's fucking impractical and utterly useless. Forty-five is a decent size heavy-hitter. So I go with a modern .45 (older ones might be "refurbished" aka retreads). Wilson Combat makes a bad-ass .45 that you simply cannot beat. As far as two-handed firing... that's for Perfect Dark and Goldeneye. Unless you're ambidextrous and well-trained to overcome dominance, you'll basically be spraying and praying... meaning wasting rounds.

If you're talking about bigger weapons, specify either shotguns or rifles. I myself prefer Remington or Ithaca shotguns, but that's simply because they're reliable and make a bad-ass bang... in addition to a decent hole in your chest. For rifles, I go with something that fires at least 7.62... since I believe in the laws of lead, we're talking AK variants. If possible I'll take a machinegun. My first duty station, I carried the M249 SAW until we went to Bosnia, then I was carrying an M60. We eventually upgraded to M240 (also known as Mag-something...) and because I was the biggest boy on the team, I got it.

Firepower is ultimate. Accuracy is secondary... you can hit them all day. But if you can't put them down, you're a target. Firepower does not necessarily mean rate of fire... but it does mean bigger bore.

some jackass (apparent firearms know it all) told me it weighed about 70 pounds.

oddfish · 2004-05-03, 06:58 PM

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Dharkbayne · 2004-05-03, 07:01 PM

A fancy uzi with a lasersight in one hand, and a katana in the other. And laser vision. Or fire breath. Yeaaaah, firebreath.

JetRaiden · 2004-05-03, 07:07 PM

an uzi with lasersight is like putting a scope on a slingshot. basically a waste of time.

OneManArmy · 2004-05-03, 07:40 PM

if you ever have a good buzz goin' just come hang around firefly he'll kill it for ya

ControlledBurn · 2004-05-03, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by OneManArmy

if you ever have a good buzz goin' just come hang around firefly he'll kill it for ya

He seems pretty cool if you ask me, knows his stuff and doesn't bullshit.

AztecWarrior · 2004-05-03, 07:47 PM

AK-47 (because 7.62x39 Soviet beats the crap out of 5.56x45 NATO) with GP-25 40mm grenade launcher in case I really need to kill every motherfucker in the room.

I'd also like to add a red dot sight.

Seer · 2004-05-03, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by Firefly

The 9mm round itself is a piece of shit. Why do you think TR sucks? You can hit a guy with a 9mil and unless you head-shot him, chances are he's going to get up and beat the fuck out of you. And you'd deserve it.

Firepower is ultimate. Accuracy is secondary... you can hit them all day. But if you can't put them down, you're a target. Firepower does not necessarily mean rate of fire... but it does mean bigger bore.

Firefly, mind backing up your extreme claims with data? I'll take accuracy over firepower any day.

dscytherulez · 2004-05-03, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by Firefly

Having lived a fairly adventurous and active military career, I can safely say I can, could, and/or have used most of the standard arms you might see. I am also amazed at the Hollywood-brainwashed stupidity of some people here. The Calico is a piece of shit. Its sales sucked balls for a reason. Because the weapon sucked balls. Why do you think they went out of business? It might be pretty and spacey... but it fires like a two year old girl.

Uh... negative. Its earlier variant the LAND WARRIOR system altogether weighed around a hundred pounds, I believe. The OICW is a scaled-down more-effective version made by like seventeen different companies (they each have a piece to make). Try doing your homework before you go farting off at the mouth.

I believe in stopping power versus fancy artsy-fartsy garbage. Berettas are "handy" because they are cheap, dime-a-dozen, and fire a standard-size munition. Every dime-store hood and cheap ghetto "gangsta" has one... that's part of the problem. if they all have them and there are so many shootings, why do so many of them still exist? I'll tell you why. The 9mm round itself is a piece of shit. Why do you think TR sucks? You can hit a guy with a 9mil and unless you head-shot him, chances are he's going to get up and beat the fuck out of you. And you'd deserve it.

Stopping power puts down your enemies. Lots of lead does not. You can fire a magazine of 9mil at a target and, perhaps if G'd was smiling on you and wanted you to go home and see your little girl, you'd walk away. Big-bore pistols. Don't give me that Desert Eagle shit... that's overkill. If you can stand without your arms shaking after that, if you can fucking HEAR after firing the seven-round magazine, you don't need a gun. It's a heavy-hitting weapon, made mainly for sporting and target shooting... because unless you're shooting engine blocks on semi rigs, it's fucking impractical and utterly useless. Forty-five is a decent size heavy-hitter. So I go with a modern .45 (older ones might be "refurbished" aka retreads). Wilson Combat makes a bad-ass .45 that you simply cannot beat. As far as two-handed firing... that's for Perfect Dark and Goldeneye. Unless you're ambidextrous and well-trained to overcome dominance, you'll basically be spraying and praying... meaning wasting rounds.

If you're talking about bigger weapons, specify either shotguns or rifles. I myself prefer Remington or Ithaca shotguns, but that's simply because they're reliable and make a bad-ass bang... in addition to a decent hole in your chest. For rifles, I go with something that fires at least 7.62... since I believe in the laws of lead, we're talking AK variants. If possible I'll take a machinegun. My first duty station, I carried the M249 SAW until we went to Bosnia, then I was carrying an M60. We eventually upgraded to M240 (also known as Mag-something...) and because I was the biggest boy on the team, I got it.

Firepower is ultimate. Accuracy is secondary... you can hit them all day. But if you can't put them down, you're a target. Firepower does not necessarily mean rate of fire... but it does mean bigger bore.

Chill man. This whole thread was based on the fictional coolness factor. You need to calm down. In a real situation, yes, there would be almost NO way I would take a .50 DE over a P-99 unless I was going up against someone in kevlar. Secondly, what you said about 9mm is complete and utter BULLSHIT. Let me shoot you in the chest, or stomach, or thigh. We'll see how far you make it to beating the shit out of me after that. A .357 DE is just as powerful, if not more, than a .45 colt. Plus, the recoil is similar. Don't knock Desert Eagles. You seem to be comparing their overkill to a big bore .50 sniper. That is not what you should be doing. A Barret M99 could crack a big block, a close range .50 DE might dent it. There's a difference between caliber and actual firing power.

You also have no right to talk about overkill as you talk about a SAW as a single person assault weapon. It is a covering fire support weapon, not a fucking Rambo gun. You'd get pwned if you rambo'd with that. It's just not conventional.

Lastly, your words on firepower would get you on a snipers shitlist, as they would tell you a completely different story. I'd say it is an even combination of the two. As a matter of fact, I'd say accuracy is more important. If someone could fire a single shot 800 meters away and hit a man in the skull, he's dead. No matter how you look at it, he's fucked. I could send 300 rounds of an mp5 down an 800 meter range and miss him all day, or, put a couple of 7.62's down range and miss with those too.. If that happened, I'd say I'd be the one fucked. It all depends on the situation.