Petition: Force Rockstar to put GTA:VC on X-Box - Page 4

JetRaiden · 2004-10-08, 10:22 AM

in short:

PC>Consoles

Dharkbayne · 2004-10-08, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by MrVicchio

I am talking about FF, Dragon Warrior and the like.

D & D is BORING on the computer. Not since the original Pool of Radiance... lol and the cheesy decoder wheel to prevent copyright infringement, have I bothered with such on my computer. I save that for MMO level RPGs.

BTW Consoel MMO... SUCK

D&D was pretty fun on IRC, awhile back.

Also - Baldurs Gate I & II? Neverwinter Nights? Tell me those sucked, please.

_-Gunslinger-_ · 2004-10-08, 12:17 PM

RISC is why consoles roxorz. And I believe that once Liniux becomes more and more mainstream and game makers begin taking advantage of the hybrid system, RISC/CISC, on it game grafics will surpass console.

Whoever said that PC's own consoles in all situations is just wrong. Halo on a 62 inch Plasma screen TV with god knows what kind of surround sound. OMG that was beutiful.

ChewyLSB · 2004-10-08, 03:09 PM

There are so many better FPS's than Halo on the PC. Halo was really nothing new... anything "new" in Halo was already done in PC's.

PC FPS's are just so much better than Console FPS's...

Kikinchikin · 2004-10-08, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by ChewyLSB

There are so many better FPS's than Halo on the PC. Halo was really nothing new... anything "new" in Halo was already done in PC's.

PC FPS's are just so much better than Console FPS's...

I can't speak for halo, since I haven't played it (yeah I know), but CoD UO was perhaps the best single player game (certainly the best fps) I have played. The missions were pretty diverse for an FPS (some railgunning, some traditional run and shoots, large battles, one part where you're in a plane and you have to run all over it to different tail gunner position, etc) Some really good gaming there. But I have heard from friends that it isn't anything revolutionary.

MrVicchio · 2004-10-08, 03:30 PM

If I had a mouse and keyboard to play my FPS on, with fully configuarable controls (I use the number pad TYVFM) I might not feel the same about them.

ChewyLSB · 2004-10-08, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by KiKiNCHiKiN

I can't speak for halo, since I haven't played it (yeah I know), but CoD UO was perhaps the best single player game (certainly the best fps) I have played. The missions were pretty diverse for an FPS (some railgunning, some traditional run and shoots, large battles, one part where you're in a plane and you have to run all over it to different tail gunner position, etc) Some really good gaming there. But I have heard from friends that it isn't anything revolutionary.

Call of Duty wasn't a truly revolutionary game either, but what it did do was put together a LOT of good ideas together that other games had used previously, but badly, and made it a great game.

MattxMosh · 2004-10-08, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by MrVicchio

2. Better Controler

Are you insane?

Mag-Mower · 2004-10-08, 05:44 PM

I have a PS2 and an XBox, the XBox being my newest system. Yes, i do like the XBox, But i prefer the PS2. And if some on said ill give you 4 games, but you have to give me one of your consoles, i would get rid of the XBox, i dont know why, i just prefer the PS2

Mag-Mower · 2004-10-08, 05:52 PM

Double post, sorry

Originally Posted by MrVicchio

Both My PC's are better then an X-Box. My monitor is 23" My TV is 35"

I can bring My X-Box places, kinda hard to lug my PC anywhere

X-Box over PS2 GTAIII/VC

1. Better Graphics

2. Better Controler

3. Lower load times

4. No stinking memory card

5. Its X-Box, X-Box powns PS2 in all departments on a pure technical basis alone.

1. Not true, PS2 is easily capable of reaching life-like graphics, why dont companys make life like games on the PS2? they are too fucking lazy, PS2 and XBox are capable of the same thing

2. I disagree, the PS2 controller feels much more comfortable

3. This one is True

4. Good point, but lets say you wanted to show of your car collection in Burnout 3, you can do that with the PS2's memory card, and lets say, for some reason you have 2 XBox's because you like to link, and your main console (with all of your saved games) breaks? or lets say your HD breaks? then what are you gonna do? atleast with the PS2, you can transfer one set of data to an other console...

5. Yea it does, but that doesnt mean its better, like i said befor, developers are too fucking lazy to optimize code and all that crap.

PS2 wins

ChewyLSB · 2004-10-08, 05:56 PM

Mag, it's a fact, XBox does have overall better hardware specifications, and if both systems were pushed to their limits, the XBox would reign supreme.

The reason I don't want an XBox is because it does not have NEARLY enough good, exclusive games out for it. Since graphics mean jack crap to me, just because a game has better have better graphics on a different system doesn't make it better for me...

Angel_of_Death · 2004-10-08, 06:49 PM

Halo on PC blows. I think it's so much shittier compared to the Xbox version. Halo on Xbox is my favorite game and it is just awesome. Halo 2 is going to pwnshit, and I've been waiting for this game for a long time.

PC is better than consoles for certain things, Consoles better than PC for certain things. And it's all a matter of preference, so any argument is kind of moot.

MrVicchio · 2004-10-08, 07:07 PM

Sorry but the X beats PS2 hands down when it comes to graphics.

Try running SSX Tricky SIDE BY SIDE on the X and the PS2 same TV's you'll see what I mean. The PS2 has pop outs, eddier graphics, and slows down at points... IN THE SAME DEMO REEL played on the X which looks smoother. Thats one RL example I have done.

Mag-Mower · 2004-10-08, 08:44 PM

Well, that tells you EA really doesnt put a lot of effort into optimization, ie. Burnout 3 (i know its from EA) but every one says that B3 on the PS2 looks a lot better than the on on the XB

Madcow · 2004-10-09, 02:35 AM

Originally Posted by MrVicchio

MadCow, Rockstar is locked up?

After reviewing all the online crap I could, I found no evidence of this, the exclusive contract is over I.E. thats why you had the double pack for GTAIII/VC

And the petition is NOT pissing in the wind, what it does is tell Rockstar not to let SOE or anyone else "lock them up" again in the future because they are pissing on potential customers. Thats never a good thing.

Sony locked up Rockstar on the GTA series before GTA3 came out. It was actually a fairly risky move that just paid off tons for them. This is the last game that falls under the Sony exclusivity agreement. The GTA3/VC double pack didn't violate the exclusivity agreement because the agreement only protects for a finite period of time (ie, the game is released for 1 year on PS2 and can then be ported to any other console). If I remember correctly, the Sony/Rockstar contract actually expires at the end of this year so I'm curious to see if the X-Box will have to wait a full year for San Andreas or if Rockstar is allowed to start selling it January 1.

The petition is still pissing in the wind, though. Rockstar signed the agreement with Sony because at the time Rockstar was NOBODY in the gaming world. They needed the extra cash. They'd never make the same kind of move again, they don't have to any more. In the long run you'd have to say that the exclusivity deal worked out for both Rockstar and Sony though, they certainly never hurt themselves by signing it.

Edit:

The only link I could find with a quick search was an older one from when the twin packs were just about to come out (which apparently happened because of a renegotiation of terms with Sony, not the window expiring after a finite amount of time as I though). It does mention the exclusivity deal lasting through the end of 2004 though.

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/421/421502p1.html?fromint=1