Free Speech or Hate Symbol? - Page 4

Arshune · 2003-02-19, 12:33 AM

It's a peace sign to buddhists too, they call it something else though.

Fire_Monkey · 2003-02-19, 12:35 AM

Ah, thanks, was it inverted like the Navaho one, because the Nazis modified thiers.

Arshune · 2003-02-19, 12:45 AM

I'm pretty sure it's just a swastika that they call by a different name. I don't remember, the only thing I know is that they banned a pokemon card because there was one in the background. I thought "wtf, that's ridiculous...kids don't know what that is."

Bighoss · 2003-02-19, 12:50 AM

bah people need to lighten before this race issue is delt with. Sueing and arresting people is not the answer. I think its pathetic that a sound I make with my mouth or a gesture with my body or an object can offend somone.

The problem is people want to live in a society that they celebrate their differences but are viewed as the same person as the one next to them. That is impossible it will never happen and I hate this unitainable goal.

afex · 2003-02-19, 01:05 AM

Originally posted by Fire_Monkey
Check my post, I said a simillar thing, and then Afex flamed me.

your whole arguement is based on the "fact" that the confederate flags can be interpreted a number of ways.

uh, in case you haven't lived on earth for the past ever, ANYTHING can be interpreted an INFINITE number of ways.

i've just decided that your nickname represents the horrors of the destruction of our world's rainforests and the slaying of the innocent creatures who make it their home. it is offensive to me, you have to change it.

Unregistered · 2003-02-19, 01:12 AM

Originally posted by {BOHICA}Navaron
There are soo many things wrong with that statement, I honestly don't have time to reply.

This needs to be in the Quote DB.

Ludio · 2003-02-19, 02:51 AM

If homosexuals were associated with slavery then I think the second flag would be considered as being offensive.

Personally though I think that you should have the right to do anything you want in regards to flag flying, flag burning, or any free speech stuff like that.

MrVicchio · 2003-02-19, 06:03 AM

I am from the "South" I see a confederate flag and I dont think Robert E Lee. I Think of all things not "Yankee" I don't see slavery, or any other bullsnot. I see "Yee HAW" I see the Dukes of Hazzard.

Yet you see hate. You see oppression, you see what the schools taught you to see, to think ot feel. You need to get out more.

Fire_Monkey · 2003-02-19, 07:58 AM

Well, that would be a little hard considering the fact that i'm 13. Obviously society has corrupted you.

eMaGyN · 2003-02-19, 08:26 AM

Not to add to the fire...
or take a chance to lose respect.
but in my opinion, i do not like the confederate flag... i do believe it is still extremely hurtful for the descendents of people from the slave era. There was a huge time period where people were enslaved under that flag and I think its terrible to have that flag flying in "pride".
Pride for what? Enslaving millions of people? Thats nothing to be prideful about.
I know how much tears and blood were shed during those time periods, and letting that flag still fly... seems very disrespectful to those who have sacrificed their lives to this cause named "freedom".
Again, my opinion... please don't hurt me!

eMa

Navaron · 2003-02-19, 08:32 AM

The north had slaves, yet I've never heard anyone piss and moan about the circle 13.

Fire_Monkey · 2003-02-19, 08:41 AM

Originally posted by afex
your whole arguement is based on the "fact" that the confederate flags can be interpreted a number of ways.

uh, in case you haven't lived on earth for the past ever, ANYTHING can be interpreted an INFINITE number of ways.

i've just decided that your nickname represents the horrors of the destruction of our world's rainforests and the slaying of the innocent creatures who make it their home. it is offensive to me, you have to change it.

Afex if you read my post you would notice that your argument is bogus. I said that the Confederate flag COULD represent violence, and that can be backed up with evidence. (ie. The Civil War) whereas the homosexual flag or as you said, my nick, cannot be backed up with evidence to prove that it hurts you. And neither is universally accepted as a symbol of hate. Ema is right, why should anyone be proud of thier southern heritage when it was slavery, creating dissension throughout the nation, and de-humanizing an entire race? And BTW the North isn't blatantly proud of thier heritage. ( I am from the south, just a note)

Bighoss · 2003-02-19, 08:44 AM

you know what really offends the hell out of me, chairs. Biggest hate symbol on earth. I also find Cheese offending because I feel that since asian people can't it because they don't take on cow dairy to well that it is offending to them because its almost like we forcing it on them

Fire_Monkey · 2003-02-19, 08:45 AM

The sardonic wit of Bighoss

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you hoss

Navaron · 2003-02-19, 08:46 AM

"why should anyone be proud of thier southern heritage when it was slavery,"

Your age is showing.....

Same token then,

No French, German, Brittish, Canadian, Russian, Greek, African, Roman, Japanese, Chinese, Korean,........., people should be proud of their heritage. You're the product of a school system that tells you people in the South talk slow and are stupid hillbillies that want to lynch all blacks. Trust me, ask a black person which kind of racism, southern or northern, is worse, and they'll tell you northern every single time.