Infantry Health - Page 4

Rbstr · 2011-07-11, 04:42 PM

Yeah, you should find a medic or put up with being less effective.

It's called team play. It's another aspect of being good at a game.

EDIT: And it's the reason to play a game online in teams to begin with.

Bags · 2011-07-11, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by Zulthus

QFT... you're acting like out of the thousands of people that will be playing this game, nobody is going to be a medic. Come on.

You ever played on a pub TF2 server? Nobody plays medic. You're lucky if on a team of 16 you have one medic. People played a lot of medic in early GA alpha when it was overpowered.

Originally Posted by Rbstr

Yeah, you should find a medic or put up with being less effective.

It's called team play. It's another aspect of being good at a game.

Good gameplay should come before "being good at the game". It's not fun for someone to be a healbot and it's not fun to require a healbot.

Zulthus · 2011-07-11, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by Bags

You ever played on a pub TF2 server? Nobody plays medic. You're lucky if on a team of 16 you have one medic.

Good gameplay should come before "being good at the game". It's not fun for someone to be a healbot and it's not fun to require a healbot.

TF2 is a 16 player game and it's very fast paced. No need for a medic. You die every minute anyway.

Why do you assume being a healer is boring? I used to play EverCrack and I was a cleric for 5 years. Not boring at all, people NEED you too.

Bags · 2011-07-11, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by Zulthus

TF2 is a 16 player game and it's very fast paced. No need for a medic. You die every minute anyway.

Why do you assume being a healer is boring? I used to play EverCrack and I was a cleric for 5 years. Not boring at all, people NEED you too.

I played a healer in WoW for six months; it's a thankless, boring job, at least in PVP. It was fun at first until I realized no one gave a damn about me unless I was healing them specifically.

Planetside 2 is going to be very fast paced, you'll probably be dying much faster than every minute with headshots and decreased TTK. I don't see your point.

2coolforu · 2011-07-11, 04:47 PM

Then you revive people :P

Volw · 2011-07-11, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by 2coolforu

Then you revive people :P

I sense BF2 stat padding.

Rbstr · 2011-07-11, 04:50 PM

Have you ever played BC2 where tons of people are medics, because they're not only healers but good combatants? Hell, the healing abilities are secondary to the class compared to the combat.

Stat padding exists in any game. Lol, empty continent, find tower spawn someone over and over and over. "It could be open for exploits" is just an excuse for irrational dislike.

Bags · 2011-07-11, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by Rbstr

Have you ever played BC2 where tons of people are medics, because they're not only healers but good combatants? Hell, the healing abilities are secondary to the class compared to the combat.

Sounds like early GA where everyone was a medic because they were like 10% worse at fighting than everyone else but had ridiculous self healing ability.

Redshift · 2011-07-11, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Bags

I think he's referring to their decreased TTK and headshots.

i'm talking about now tbh, you take a plasma nade to the face and you're on 10%

dragon to the face and you're dead unless you can get your med app out during the burn

and as for running back to the ams.... to pop med packs.... you're looking at at least a 10 second run there more if its a base, 20 seconds of med packing, then at least 10 back... might as well suicide and get back in 30

Soothsayer · 2011-07-11, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by Bags

You ever played on a pub TF2 server? Nobody plays medic. You're lucky if on a team of 16 you have one medic. People played a lot of medic in early GA alpha when it was overpowered.

Awesome thing about TF2 classes is that there is little to no penalty to switching to a medic.

In PS, I know I would be inclined to switch over to a medic if I was properly rewarded for it.

As far as fitting this into what we have experienced in PS, there were empire incentives, this could be taken a little farther by promoting an ideal mix. You could tie it in with voice macros, depending on what people are calling for at a base/area/region tie the incentives into the local needs of the situation. You could tie it in with the stats of the killspam... lots of people dying without being rezzed, boost XP for medics...

Zulthus · 2011-07-11, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by Bags

I played a healer in WoW for six months; it's a thankless, boring job, at least in PVP. It was fun at first until I realized no one gave a damn about me unless I was healing them specifically.

Planetside 2 is going to be very fast paced, you'll probably be dying much faster than every minute with headshots and decreased TTK. I don't see your point.

WoW is the worst and most boring damn game in the world though, that's probably why. I doubt they'll make the TTK *THAT* bad, I'm sure it'll be similar to PS1 in some way. And I'm pretty sure headshots will only work with sniper rifles. If not, then meh.

Bags · 2011-07-11, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by Redshift

i'm talking about now tbh, you take a plasma nade to the face and you're on 10%

dragon to the face and you're dead unless you can get your med app out during the burn

and as for running back to the ams.... to pop med packs.... you're looking at at least a 10 second run there more if its a base, 20 seconds of med packing, then at least 10 back... might as well suicide and get back in 30

Yeah, the dragon is kind of ridiculous. I dunno, I just feel I should be able to heal myself slowly, while medics sshould have bitching heal rates, revives, and maybe other tools.

Medics are highly desirable, but not 100% necessary.