Nanite Weapon Holstering - Page 4

Sirisian · 2012-04-20, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by MrBloodworth

I would rather know what people have equipped, ALA PS1.

Yeah I think everyone would, but the developers said they aren't going to do it. This thread was basically just an idea so we don't have weapons appearing/disappearing from the players hands. It also elegantly describes holstering delays and makes them easy to change.

Originally Posted by Brusi

It's funny... so much has happened since we heard the initial news about PS2 that even posting a new post in a thread that is a only a month old seems like a necro, lol

Yeah it does. Totally forgot about this thread.

headcrab13 · 2012-04-20, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by Sirisian

The pistol would animate by dissolving toward the player's hands with a red/teal/blue glow along the borders depending on the faction.

I love the idea, but since all other "nanite animations" from PS1 and PS2 are done in bright green, it would probably make sense to look like this (skip to 6:42) :

That neon, sweeping nanite construction effect is so badass. It's great that it does that every time someone spawns a vehicle, and I'm hoping bodies breaking down will have the same look.

Fenrod · 2012-04-20, 03:13 PM

Damn right, I've never really paid attention to this, but it's really badass. This would be cool in a weapon holstering system, with blue for Vanu, yellow for NC and red for TR.

headcrab13 · 2012-04-20, 04:07 PM

Here's a better link so you don't have to skip through the vid:

GIFSoup

Talek Krell · 2012-04-20, 04:14 PM

We could take a cue from Borderlands too. Each character had a little box strapped to some part of them. whenever they switched weapons the gun would dissolve into particles and disappear into the box. I can try to find a video later.

Eyeklops · 2012-04-20, 04:24 PM

I want the guns to get pulled out of your ass, literally. The player reaches around and pulls out a Beamer with one good tug. Wouldn't see me kissing my guns though. You can imagine the reverse of the process on your own. I lol thinking about people holstering those massive AV weapons.

sylphaen · 2012-04-20, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by Brusi

It's funny... so much has happened since we heard the initial news about PS2 that even posting a new post in a thread that is a only a month old seems like a necro, lol

Yes, I did not want to create a new thread since there was one about holstering. Unfortunately, no one understood that I was mentionning a different issue than the OP. Maybe I should have created a new thread.

While the focus of the OP was about the "art" part of holstering, I am more concerned about the gameplay/mechanics.

For instance, that video shown above proves (at least if nothing changed since GDC) that holstering weapons is not required to enter vehicles. That's an interesting change from PS1.

Talek Krell · 2012-04-20, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by sylphaen

While the focus of the OP was about the "art" part of holstering, I am more concerned about the gameplay/mechanics.

As far as I know nothing about holstering weapons entirely has ever been mentioned, so I'm in the same boat as you.

Fenrod · 2012-04-20, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by Eyeklops

I want the guns to get pulled out of your ass, literally. The player reaches around and pulls out a Beamer with one good tug. Wouldn't see me kissing my guns though. You can imagine the reverse of the process on your own. I lol thinking about people holstering those massive AV weapons.

That's even more funny and disgusting than your avatar

Khellendros · 2012-04-20, 07:32 PM

What I don't get about this idea is, if the devs have decided not to work on holstering, why would they work on this?

Vancha · 2012-04-20, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by Khellendros

What I don't get about this idea is, if the devs have decided not to work on holstering, why would they work on this?

Because the reason that they decided not to have holstering was due to the additional weapons on people's back/waist reducing the amount of people you could render on the screen at one time.

Sirisian · 2012-04-20, 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by headcrab13

I love the idea, but since all other "nanite animations" from PS1 and PS2 are done in bright green, it would probably make sense to look like this (skip to 6:42) :

Note the date of the original post. Also this:

Originally Posted by Sirisian

Then again I like their GDC green glow dissolve effect. That looked cool.

Definitely would like their nanite effect. It's what I had in mind when I linked that Green Lantern video, but not as bright. As someone else mentioned you don't want it giving away your position at night all the time. (Or do you?)

Originally Posted by Fenrod

Damn right, I've never really paid attention to this, but it's really badass. This would be cool in a weapon holstering system, with blue for Vanu, yellow for NC and red for TR.

Originally Posted by Sirisian

The pistol would animate by dissolving toward the player's hands with a red/teal/blue glow along the borders depending on the faction.

*gasp* blue for vanu? Madness. We'll take teal. NC can have blue or yellow or a cool visual mix (cash shop?) and TR can have red.

Originally Posted by Talek Krell

As far as I know nothing about holstering weapons entirely has ever been mentioned, so I'm in the same boat as you.

Original post mentioned it will be like GTA where the gun forms out of nowhere. (T-Ray is the lead artist so I'd imagine he knows the most about how things are being implemented art wise). I was not happy when hearing this so I made this thread for discussion.

Khellendros · 2012-04-21, 12:17 AM

Originally Posted by Vancha

Because the reason that they decided not to have holstering was due to the additional weapons on people's back/waist reducing the amount of people you could render on the screen at one time.

So, with all the eye candy they have, this somehow is the one that breaks it? Huh.

Sirisian · 2012-04-21, 12:50 AM

Originally Posted by Khellendros

So, with all the eye candy they have, this somehow is the one that breaks it? Huh.

Each weapon is customized with attachments and skins. Each soldier is customized possibly with cash shop skins. I was doing the math on this earlier in an old thread when it was released and it does eat up a lot of memory when you realize how many units will be customized and rendered possibly in the player's view. I think they have a pretty strong case for not allowing it, but honestly it is something they could add later since most of us have 2GB of video ram. (I'm using a year old laptop with that much, so I can only imagine what most desktop users have).

Another thing is you don't want to implement something that takes a lot of developer time if people are going to turn it off for performance. So their priorities are probably in the right place.

Dairian · 2012-04-21, 01:10 AM

I think this is a great idea, and I don't think it would take to much to implement into the game, since the reaver Higby spawned did that exact thing in the GDC video...... I mean come on they are adding cockpits this late.