Will Beta TOS allow making videos? - Page 4

The Degenatron · 2012-06-20, 01:34 PM

They could tell me "Hey YOU, Degenatron: No breathing while playing the PS2 Beta. But just you Degenatron, everybody else is OK. We just don't Degenatron getting his germs on our awesome game."

And my response would be:

Why? Because I can hold my breath for a loooooooooong time!

But seriously, you can respect the companies IP and abide by their rules, or you can just not be in the beta. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

p0intman · 2012-06-20, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by fishirboy

I understand what the NAD is but why is it there. F2P is not going to scare people away when it comes out there still going to try it. Only like 1 % of people are that stupid to judge a F2P game before it releases, and with out playing it. Just wanted to get a DEVs perspective on what he thought (or she).

Its there because the game is still in pre-release, there are many things that can happen while something is in pre-production that can give information to competition with regards to what they are doing. The game isn't making money yet, so some things may still be considered trade secrets that they want to keep quiet about so other games don't copy them before they can make money from them.

maradine · 2012-06-20, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by fishirboy

I understand what the NAD is but why is it there. F2P is not going to scare people away when it comes out there still going to try it. Only like 1 % of people are that stupid to judge a F2P game before it releases, and with out playing it. Just wanted to get a DEVs perspective on what he thought (or she).

Because SoE wants to control their public message, and they have chosen for that message to not include footage from the closed beta. It doesn't matter why, and in most orgs, it's not the devs making the call.

fishirboy · 2012-06-20, 01:38 PM

filthy sony is taking over NOOOOO

so wish that PS2 was its own compony as Mojang to bad

zomg · 2012-06-20, 01:38 PM

You have to realize that a closed beta is essentially a way to get more testers for an unfinished product for free, while simultaneously serving the fans by letting them get to play the game.

If you compare to the E3 which looked like "finished" and worked well, you have to realize that they probably spent weeks to polish the area for E3 gameplay. If/when the closed beta has the whole map and more content, there will be more problems.

They would not have to do a closed beta at all. Be grateful they have one.

NCLynx · 2012-06-20, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by fishirboy

I understand what the NAD is but why is it there. F2P is not going to scare people away when it comes out there still going to try it. Only like 1 % of people are that stupid to judge a F2P game before it releases, and with out playing it. Just wanted to get a DEVs perspective on what he thought (or she).

Potential bugs during closed beta testing when the game is FIRST OPENED for testing the devs just can't get without a larger playerbase WILL scare people off.

EVILoHOMER · 2012-06-20, 01:44 PM

Record as many videos as you like, just can't share them.

fishirboy · 2012-06-20, 01:46 PM

It just makes me sad that people that did not get a closed beta pass still what to know what is going on and have some interaction with people about the game. People want to know what is going on and i feel like its pushing people away that did not get lucky and get the key.

Nephilimuk · 2012-06-20, 01:46 PM

i don't understand the suprise or the outrage to SOE this is common practice and makes perfect comercial sense.... wtf did you expect?

Timey · 2012-06-20, 01:48 PM

If I had a great business idea I sure as hell wouldn't want to market it while I'm just protoing around with it.

p0intman · 2012-06-20, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by fishirboy

It just makes me sad that people that did not get a closed beta pass still what to know what is going on and have some interaction with people about the game. People want to know what is going on and i feel like its pushing people away that did not get lucky and get the key.

You need to understand that testing phases are about... testing. That means breaking the game and finding flaws. Same with open testing. It isnt about publicity or bragging rights. If you're not interested in beta testing in order to stress test the game... you don't belong in testing to begin with. wait until release.

Originally Posted by Nephilimuk

i don't understand the suprise or the outrage to SOE this is common practice and makes perfect comercial sense.... wtf did you expect?

^^^^^ This is pretty basic stuff if you've spent any time around true MMOs whatsoever.

fishirboy · 2012-06-20, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by Nephilimuk

i don't understand the suprise or the outrage to SOE this is common practice and makes perfect comercial sense.... wtf did you expect?

The world to be free with lollypops and gumdrops!

really all i want is info and if I can get fed info about how the game is going, images, and map lay outs. I just don't see so many reasons why a F2P game would ever hold a game from viewers that would give money to just play the beta or start paying right now. The game would already make profit if it was out and people would share there bugs they fined. Get money now then latter is better right?

I know what it is about but isn't more better? having more people= more eyes to fine bugs as you say. There is not much chance to show what open testing is better. So will have to live with it but yes i know what closed beta is for. I am sorry if I upset you.

Algo · 2012-06-20, 01:56 PM

The point of closed and nda is to avoid 2345070 tickets on the bug tracker about a pixel off place on a texture and having the opinion of everyone with a youtube account out before the game is presentable.. there's nothing more to argument really.

MrYams · 2012-06-20, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by fishirboy

really all i want is info and if I can get fed info about how the game is going, images, and map lay outs. I just don't see so many reasons why a F2P game would ever hold a game from viewers that would give money to just play the beta or start paying right now. The game would already make profit if it was out and people would share there bugs they fined. Get money now then latter is better right?

I think the point is so that SOE has control of the information accessed to the public and by who. You don't want XxXCODplayaXxX69 talking shit about the game on youtube. Also, the people finding the bugs have no need of reporting them to the general public. They should report them to SOE so that something can be done about them.

ODonnell · 2012-06-20, 02:13 PM

Weakest conspiracy post ever!