SoE should invite hackers to break the game - Page 4

**RadarX** · 2012-06-16, 03:08 PM

I'm fairly certain we aren't going to invite hackers but I've never been involved in a Beta where folks didn't report memory modification, blotting, speedhacks, etc... We will be watching and listening.

Xaine · 2012-06-16, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by RadarX

I'm fairly certain we aren't going to invite hackers but I've never been involved in a Beta where folks didn't report memory modification, blotting, speedhacks, etc... We will be watching and listening.

Getting white hats to try and break the game is always a pretty good idea.

Saves nasty people doing it at launch.

Nasher · 2012-06-16, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by RadarX

I'm fairly certain we aren't going to invite hackers but I've never been involved in a Beta where folks didn't report memory modification, blotting, speedhacks, etc... We will be watching and listening.

But those are just players reporting stuff they come across, usually after the damage has been done. They are not knowledgable enough to properly test for vulnerabilities.

After Sony got hacked last year and were storing data IN PLAIN TEXT. I'm worried that they really don't know what they are doing when it comes to security :/

Pillar of Armor · 2012-06-16, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by Nasher

But those are just players reporting stuff they come across, usually after the damage has been done. They are not knowledgable enough to properly test for vulnerabilities.

Just players, do include software engineers that want to see the game they love working at it's best.

TheInferno · 2012-06-16, 03:42 PM

It's an option, and whether or not they choose to take it is a higher level decision than probably even Higby or anyone on the Planetside 2 team. If it's made, I doubt we'll ever know about it.

Figment · 2012-06-16, 03:47 PM

One word: Secant. >.>

Mepper · 2012-06-16, 03:49 PM

Everyone here could hack if he/she wanted. It doesn't have to be difficult. Just quite a few players should try to hack the game, I hope there are enough people who will try it, just for fun. I will, definetely.
If you don't like your game to get hacked, stop complaining, and help.

Nasher · 2012-06-16, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by Mepper

Everyone here could hack if he/she wanted. It doesn't have to be difficult. Just quite a few players should try to hack the game, I hope there are enough people who will try it, just for fun. I will, definetely.
If you don't like your game to get hacked, stop complaining, and help.

Not, not everyone could do it. Everyone could run some script or program that an actual hacker has made. They are known as "script kiddies" and usually become victims themselves :P

Stew · 2012-06-16, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by Grapes

I really think they should do this at some point in the closed beta. Since this is a F2P game, there will be a LOT of people trying it out, and a lot of them will probably create grief-accounts aswell. I think it would be a good move from SoE to pay some hackers to find at least the easiest exploits before launch, so that they can get sorted out and be better prepared.

Thoughts?

No need to invite them they already have 10000 beta key at this very momments how you think all those key as been taken in less than 4 second ?

And they have been in battlefield pc alpha and beta so yeah they will be in the beta preparing themself to sell some monthly subscribtion based aimbot

No need to invite them lol

Pepsi · 2012-06-16, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by Nasher

Not, not everyone could do it. Everyone could run some script or program that an actual hacker has made. They are known as "script kiddies" and usually become victims themselves :P

I think that's the core of this issue. A good hacker is always going to be better than Punkbuster or whatever defense SOE is planning to construct. The most you can hope for is to patch the existing hack methods and wait the few hours until the hacker breaks your program again and distributes the hack among their script kiddie followers. It's a never ending cycle.

I'd say the difference between video game hacking and IRL corporate hacking is there isn't much enforcement in the video game world besides banning (after which the person will make a new account since this is F2P) and there is a lot more demand for hacks since it's unregulated. When one person cracks your game, everyone has cracked your game.

The best thing you can do is make sure no serious hacks like station money frauding come out, which is probably already covered among the devs. I don't really see much of a point to hire "white-hats" in this context.

Rumblepit · 2012-06-16, 05:11 PM

lmao you will see them in beta.... they wont be invited but some witless wounder is gonna try something.

Trafalgar · 2012-06-16, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by Stew

No need to invite them they already have 10000 beta key at this very momments how you think all those key as been taken in less than 4 second ?

Gee, I don't know, maybe by one of the innumerable people who want to get in after seeing it from E3 footage or hearing about it, typing them in faster? I can be sure there aren't bots instantly grabbing all the publicly tweeted keys, because if there were, I would never have been able to register one of them.

If you (or anyone) is trying to get them by repeatedly refreshing the twitter website, that's just a waste of time. Get an application that streams data from twitter, like TweetDeck or Seesmic Desktop.

maddoggg · 2012-06-16, 06:14 PM

I actually like the idea of SOE hiring a hacker or two to find and fix their weak spots.

Chewy · 2012-06-16, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by Shigins

Ok as a person with a degree in the subject im going to stop all this bitching...

a Hacker = someone who likes to play with code and find vulenarbilities

a Cracker = a Malicious person who attempts to cause damage by performing hacking techniques

THERE A DIFFERENCE!!!!

Please dont post on the subject if you dont know what it means

Im kinda certain that you have that wrong.

Hacker- Anyone that abuses code of any type to gain in one way or another
Cracker- Anyone who's job is to find errors in code that may lead to abuse

Hackers are the guys that use aim-bots and such. Crackers are the ones that are paid to find the loopholes or back doors in code so that they can be fixed.

Stew · 2012-06-16, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by Trafalgar

Gee, I don't know, maybe by one of the innumerable people who want to get in after seeing it from E3 footage or hearing about it, typing them in faster? I can be sure there aren't bots instantly grabbing all the publicly tweeted keys, because if there were, I would never have been able to register one of them.

If you (or anyone) is trying to get them by repeatedly refreshing the twitter website, that's just a waste of time. Get an application that streams data from twitter, like TweetDeck or Seesmic Desktop.

no need for a public beta key here but i know these such thing are doable and iam pretty much sure we will have the artificial aiming crew with us in the beta

100 % sure