Lasher, Jackhammer and MCG.

[UnknownDT]

Originally Posted by Effective

I don't have many issues with the lasher personally, at most, I might miss 1 or 2 orbs, but I usually hit everything.

Not versus me lol.. but that's cause I'm so amazing and my strafe is untouchable.


and also.... WHY in the HELL are you guys even arguining over this retarded subject. This game is dead and has been for years and will be even more in a month. Silly kids..

[Canaris]

Originally Posted by UnknownDT

Not versus me lol.. but that's cause I'm so amazing and my strafe is untouchable.


and also.... WHY in the HELL are you guys even arguining over this retarded subject. This game is dead and has been for years and will be even more in a month. Silly kids..

I think this thread started in the PS2 section on how the OP hates/dislikes the lasher and doesn't want to see it return to the sequel in it's current form and the whole mess got bumped down here by some pious mod

[Effective]

Originally Posted by Kalbuth

As I'm probably the only one having mentioned warping, really guys, relax. It's like I insulted you. Not my intention.
1) I never ever mentioned lasher suffering more from warping
2) I'm not even complaining about it. Just mentionning facts.

Actually I wasn't referring to you at all, there are at least 2 people who directly complain about the lasher versus warpers. Had you been the only person to mention it, I would have quoted you directly.

You barely mentioned warping at all in your posts. Shouldn't you not be so overly defensive?

[Espion]

Originally Posted by cryosin

The problem with the Lasher is that it is simply a worse MCG.

It has a longer TTK, more recoil, slower rate of fire and you basically cant strafe and shoot the thing unless you're point blank.

This isn't true for rexos, only agiles. Against agile I can't remember the exact numbers but MCG should have a slightly lower TTK if it's not near identical (7mcg shots vs 4 lasher shots iirc). And against rexo the TTK for lasher is 1.0s, and for MCG 1.33s.

The lasher has just always had problems with hit detection since the changes, and with all the lag that has continuously build up or been added by SOE via server moves and loggin, it just kept getting worse to the point where it feels like the MCG has a shorter TTK because it's less impacted by the lag (even though it still normally takes 2-3x as much shots as it should to kill someone with it now)

[Metalsheep]

Originally Posted by Xaine

I'd rather use the sweeper, and i do

The Sweeper is the best CQB gun in the game, imo. it has the range and TTK to go up against the MCG, it out ranges the Jackhammer, and can also beat the Lasher. I love that there is a MA weapon that can let people go toe to toe with the HA guns.

[jakaul]

Let's be real here, this is mostly about skill and less about weapons. This is about one empire that tends to bring more skilled players to its side to make up for the shitty weapon that we're given. I will give you a breakdown of the average player for each empire - and this is scientific fact based off of empire-ical evidence (lol, witty). I will utilize my vast knowledge of movie characters to illustrate as I question how well read most TR and NC soldiers are.

TR - You look cool with your goggles and daunting (that means scary for you NC folks) red and black colors. The MCG shoots a lot of bullets in a short amount of time, so you guys apparently think you're Jesse Ventura from Predator. You ain't got time to bleed, huh? A sexual Tyrannosaurus? You obviously ain't got time to realize distance is your friend when it comes to doing battle. While you're running forward singing tyrannical anthems blasting lead, you come into the killing zone of both other empires' HA weapons. Brawn but no brains. Wah, my TTK is so much longer than everyone else's - take it from me, who is used to being so much longer than everyone else - your TTK is only longer if you both don't miss, which means you need to play to your strengths (hint, it's the same thing that really hot chick does to you - keeps her distance). No, not having time to bleed isn't a strength. Nor are goggles. You look stupid. Two out of three empires agree.

NC - Hoooly crap. You're "rebels" with big guns and horrible aim. Fight the power, fight the tech nerds. Reminds me of Arnold Schwarzenegger as the Terminator with your big ass shotgun, sunglasses and grim expression. Boom, click, boom, click, boom, click, boo...oh hell, I died. Hey, I have an idea, why not jump in a huge suit with an even BETTER Boom Clicker and shields to make up for my horrible aim? My bullets SPREAD so there's more chance that one of the tiny bastards will hit something other than a wall! I digress since the Scat is a whole different level of stupid that belongs in a different game like Blacklight Retribution. But anyway, it's fitting that your tag line is "I'll be back" because you try to engage the other empires from 50m with your 10m ownage gun and then you scamper off to get your silly fat MAX suit. I mean, why wouldn't you need 600 armor and shields against that agile? Breaking news - the Terminator still dies. Even after he gets a Falcon because his Scat is on a timer.

VS - Here's the time I get real on this thread. The VS brings the most skilled players due to the nature of their Heavy Assault weapon. You don't really know where the orbs are going. You don't really know if they're going to register when they hit. But, you damn well know it's going to be a bad ass light show for the whole ride. People accuse us of doing the ADAD strafe while shooting pretty orbs of some crazy shit all over the immediate area. We're straight John Travolta - from our Staying Alive inspired warp, to our technological might like Battlefield Earth, all the way down to your questioning of our sexuality. You know what, we even toss in some Phenomenon with our knowledge that we're probably going to die in the very near future, but only after we Change The World (if you get that reference, bonus points). It takes skill to kill people with a weapon that's so unreliable. Especially in purple. Pew pew bitches.

In summary, the evidence above has clearly shown a distinct lack of skill on the part of TR and NC players when it comes to heavy assault weaponry. Well, NC lack of skill is kind of all around to the point you're not entirely sure why they're still performing basic human functions, but that's just getting personal.

[Wahooo]

/thread

[legendary]

Originally Posted by jakaul

Let's be real here, this is mostly about skill and less about weapons. This is about one empire that tends to bring more skilled players to its side to make up for the shitty weapon that we're given. I will give you a breakdown of the average player for each empire - and this is scientific fact based off of empire-ical evidence (lol, witty). I will utilize my vast knowledge of movie characters to illustrate as I question how well read most TR and NC soldiers are.

TR - You look cool with your goggles and daunting (that means scary for you NC folks) red and black colors. The MCG shoots a lot of bullets in a short amount of time, so you guys apparently think you're Jesse Ventura from Predator. You ain't got time to bleed, huh? A sexual Tyrannosaurus? You obviously ain't got time to realize distance is your friend when it comes to doing battle. While you're running forward singing tyrannical anthems blasting lead, you come into the killing zone of both other empires' HA weapons. Brawn but no brains. Wah, my TTK is so much longer than everyone else's - take it from me, who is used to being so much longer than everyone else - your TTK is only longer if you both don't miss, which means you need to play to your strengths (hint, it's the same thing that really hot chick does to you - keeps her distance). No, not having time to bleed isn't a strength. Nor are goggles. You look stupid. Two out of three empires agree.

NC - Hoooly crap. You're "rebels" with big guns and horrible aim. Fight the power, fight the tech nerds. Reminds me of Arnold Schwarzenegger as the Terminator with your big ass shotgun, sunglasses and grim expression. Boom, click, boom, click, boom, click, boo...oh hell, I died. Hey, I have an idea, why not jump in a huge suit with an even BETTER Boom Clicker and shields to make up for my horrible aim? My bullets SPREAD so there's more chance that one of the tiny bastards will hit something other than a wall! I digress since the Scat is a whole different level of stupid that belongs in a different game like Blacklight Retribution. But anyway, it's fitting that your tag line is "I'll be back" because you try to engage the other empires from 50m with your 10m ownage gun and then you scamper off to get your silly fat MAX suit. I mean, why wouldn't you need 600 armor and shields against that agile? Breaking news - the Terminator still dies. Even after he gets a Falcon because his Scat is on a timer.

VS - Here's the time I get real on this thread. The VS brings the most skilled players due to the nature of their Heavy Assault weapon. You don't really know where the orbs are going. You don't really know if they're going to register when they hit. But, you damn well know it's going to be a bad ass light show for the whole ride. People accuse us of doing the ADAD strafe while shooting pretty orbs of some crazy shit all over the immediate area. We're straight John Travolta - from our Staying Alive inspired warp, to our technological might like Battlefield Earth, all the way down to your questioning of our sexuality. You know what, we even toss in some Phenomenon with our knowledge that we're probably going to die in the very near future, but only after we Change The World (if you get that reference, bonus points). It takes skill to kill people with a weapon that's so unreliable. Especially in purple. Pew pew bitches.

In summary, the evidence above has clearly shown a distinct lack of skill on the part of TR and NC players when it comes to heavy assault weaponry. Well, NC lack of skill is kind of all around to the point you're not entirely sure why they're still performing basic human functions, but that's just getting personal.

Wall of text critical strike. Could you please articulate your message in the form of a picture please?

[jakaul]

Originally Posted by legendary

Wall of text critical strike. Could you please articulate your message in the form of a picture please?

[JayX]

Originally Posted by jakaul

The VS brings the most skilled players due to the nature of their Heavy Assault weapon. You don't really know where the orbs are going. You don't really know if they're going to register when they hit. But, you damn well know it's going to be a bad ass light show for the whole ride.

Lmfao..

[ringring]

Best thread ever and the longest lived.

It's antecedants began on forumcide but refused tho die and migrated here. I bet this thread is already making plans, we will see it in PS2 Beta forums and then in the live forums too.

Mark my words!

[Baneblade]

Originally Posted by infy

Bro, you better come at me or die tryin' Show respect to the best player or face an early grave.

Best player... never heard of you.

Edit: I suppose I should mention the Lasher is my favorite of the three and the one I do best with overall. I'm rarely use the Jackhammer and the planets usually have to align for me to not embarrass myself with it.

I prefer in this order:

Lasher, Gauss, Pulsar, MCG, Punisher, Sweeper, Cycler, then Jackhammer.

[neonlazer]

I dont use the lasher because you have seperate ammo..gauss and MCG use the same ammo so easy to pick up MCG and go shoot..lasher..not so much..

[infy]

Originally Posted by baneblade

best player... Never heard of you.

Edit: I suppose i should mention the lasher is my favorite of the three and the one i do best with overall. I'm rarely use the jackhammer and the planets usually have to align for me to not embarrass myself with it.

I prefer in this order:

Lasher, gauss, pulsar, mcg, punisher, sweeper, cycler, then jackhammer.

wow, you're the sickest troll ive seen broseph

First time ive heard someone saying they don't know the King.

I don't wan't to play in Auraxis anymore

[Baneblade]

Originally Posted by infy

wow, you're the sickest troll ive seen broseph

First time ive heard someone saying they don't know the King.

I don't wan't to play in Auraxis anymore

Aww don't get butthurt over it.