TwF, Xellor, ScourgeofTheServer Banned

[moosepoop]

Originally Posted by Ritual

Deal with it.

As Smedley says, oh how I wish I could give everyone XP for their tears. ROFLMAO


We need a wall of shame. To remind us all the loser's that once were among us pretending to be respectable members who missed out on a great game because they were rejects.
ROFLMAO

Hey basti, guess what. Maybe next time you step in to defend someone, you actually know what they are about. Else go back to your blacklights and cave.

enough, whiny bitch.

[UntouchableNC]

Originally Posted by Natir

All I say is that you guys know nothing of their account. You only know their sob crying story to get attention. Someone was was banned for exploiting in walls to get kills. That is an example of stat padding. That person got unbanned due to their community status. Names starts with a D....

Look, all it comes down to is people go to forums and social media to give their sob story of how they are completely innocent. You know what, I want SOE to come on these forums and post in these threads. In fact, I think all people who pad their stats should get their stats reset except for their time played.

I do not know what is up with the people in this thread but crying and giving your story does not sway me. In fact, someone trying to take to the forums just makes it more suspicious. If you are innocent, it will be sorted out with and you should be fine. If you are guilty, you will remain banned or you can try to appeal or something.. Like I said, if you are innocent and it was a mistake, it will be fine in the end so why is the need for this thread?

I just made this exact post quoting another person on the official PS2 boards, but it fits here as well.

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I wish there was a way to make you cognizant of how ignorant you're being. SOE (as many developers do) do not make any of their "evidence" available to the public, or often even to the accused. They want people to believe that they're only banning hackers and removing foul play from the game in order to keep legit players happy. It's bad for business to admit they ban falsely, so naturally they won't. However they barely even offer an explanation as to how they go about bans, much less give us any evidence proving that a player is hacking. If anything at all everyone should understand that HUMAN ERROR is always a problem. False bans ARE going to happen when you have a system moderated completely by humans alone.

If a player can't even show you streams of himself playing legitimately then what option do good players even have to defend themselves? The answer is none. As soon as this company simply states that they only ban hackers, you immediately take that as fact. Yet when a player brings up a legitimate question or complaint about a ban, people like you will jump all over them in order to somehow feel good about yourself.

I really hope people do keep some skepticism about SOE's banning process, as there is plenty of room for it to be had.

[Beerbeer]

Well, I really can't comment one way or the other. Just because you kind of know someone, even in your clan, you never really know.

I remember a buddy of mine in tf2 that I thought was a superb player, then all of a sudden he disappeared. I came to find out a few weeks later he was vac banned, so even I was fooled, I guess. I even defended him against the hacking accusations.

In no way does this relate to this situation, because I don't know.

If you're legit, just go through the unfortunate inconvenience and I'm sure all will be well soon enough. If not...my condolences.

[SKYeXile]

Originally Posted by Wargrim

So they DO ban on reports alone, and do not take any measures to actually observe a player while he is playing in order to tell a cheater from a killfarmer and/or very good player. Wow. This is so incredibly stupid and unprofessional it hurts.

Get more GMs hired and spectate reported players before banning anyone ffs, that is the very bare minimum of efford you should put into it really!

I dont get what proof they have, apparently they have to be 100% confident. smed asked me if i was running 3rd party programs, i obliviously run steam, fraps and vent, and probably some other background programs that are too numerous for me to remember or give a fuck about, too lazy to disable them in msconfig.

but even if they were watching me, my aims good, but not aimbot good.

heres some more vids.




players are just dumb = massing killing. Take notice of the lighning videos, especially the spawn camping, these videos are...cut shot. BUT THEY JUST KEEP SPAWNING!

[Sunrock]

Well I think its better SOE ban innocent players then miss baning some one that deserves it.

This would of course be an outrage if some one could prove SOE did not ban some one that they know what cheating though.

In war you need to calculate with some civilian casualties. Nothing anyone can do about that.

[ShockFC]

Originally Posted by Sunrock

Well I think its better SOE ban innocent players then miss baning some one that deserves it.

This would of course be an outrage if some one could prove SOE did not ban some one that they know what cheating though.

In war you need to calculate with some civilian casualties. Nothing anyone can do about that.

That's the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard.

[Littleman]

I refuse to side with anyone here. All I have to say about that video is... how the hell did you get so many morons to line up at the door, and do you ever let up on the trigger? Wish my rounds were that accurate full auto. On Mattherson, the VS are abusing the bug that allows explosives to blast through the shields, and just keep sprinting across the door way, planting a C4 and setting it off with unerring frequency. What happened in that video looked like something akin to those old guncon games at the arcade.

Rule of thumb I guess is if it looks like a shooting gallery, don't take the bait.

But alas, I'm more inclined to side with SOE than some seemingly famous player from PS1 and his supporters. I may have played PS1, doesn't mean I gave two $#!%s whom else did. BuzzCutPsycho is still playing last I checked, so I'm also inclined to believe it isn't just mass reports = ban. That guy would have been mass reported for his aggressive smack talk in chat alone, and if he was banned, we wouldn't hear the end of it.

And don't expect anything in the way of evidence or methods. That's like the Pentagon telling you how they keep hackers out. Anything that hints at what they do could compromise their security.

EDIT: Forgot to add, it's possible that human error has perceived SKYexile among others as a hacker through their own lack of sheer skill and disbelief. It's worth it to send in a request for a second opinion. Yes, some people will get caught in the collateral. The nature of moderators is that what they interpret varies from mod to mod.

[SKYeXile]

Originally Posted by ShockFC

That's the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard.

Hes likely one of the people that reported us, HOW DOES HE NOT TAKE DAMAGE IN THAT DOORWAY?!?! #$%%$ HACKS. Idiots.

[redshirt]

Gah that really sucks guys!

Hopefully you guys are back in game soon. It just won't be the same without SKYeXile to comaplin about with my outfit

[SGOniell]

Both sides have good points. I agree there will be some people unfortunately banned when they don't deserve it, such is life. However, I do agree with the side with the bans here. Evidence presented seems reasonable enough, at least for your particular character. Others will have to present similar before being convinced entirely of their innocence though, just being fair. Also, coming on here all angry was a bit much, we're civilized, have a calm chat rather than exuding hate and anger. Also, Ritual, don't mess with Basti, not cool man.

[Natir]

Originally Posted by UntouchableNC

I just made this exact post quoting another person on the official PS2 boards, but it fits here as well.

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I wish there was a way to make you cognizant of how ignorant you're being. SOE (as many developers do) do not make any of their "evidence" available to the public. They want people to believe that they're only banning hackers and removing foul play from the game in order to keep legit players happy. It's bad for business to admit they ban falsely, so naturally they won't. However they barely even offer an explanation as to how they go about bans, much less give us any evidence proving that a player is hacking. If anything at all everyone should understand that HUMAN ERROR is always a problem. False bans ARE going to happen when you have a system moderated completely by humans alone.

If a player can't even show you streams of himself playing legitimately then what option do good players even have to defend themselves? The answer is none. As soon as this company simply states that they only ban hackers, you immediately take that as fact. Yet when a player brings up a legitimate question or complaint about a ban, people like you will jump all over them in order to somehow feel good about yourself.

I really hope people do keep some skepticism about SOE's banning process, as there is plenty of room for it to be had.

I want to highlight one thing you said.

Yet when a player brings up a legitimate question or complaint about a ban, people like you will jump all over them in order to somehow feel good about yourself.

That right there. People in this PSU community are jumping to the rescue over these guys who were "illegitimately" banned. They have no proof other than the word of that said person. Like that tourney winner here: http://www.planetside-universe.com/c...ats=DVSDelrith



Stat padding, it happens... Don't believe everything people tell you. Right there that shows he was stat padding with friends, people, whoever going TR medic for him to farm. Not hard to figure out. But all you people coming to these forums to get a social outcry is just sad. Prove to me that all these people banned were banned by some auto mistake... Or prove to me that these people were banned by mass reporting... I am sure Buzz would have been banned by now if we follow that logic..

[Sunrock]

Originally Posted by SKYeXile

Hes likely one of the people that reported us, HOW DOES HE NOT TAKE DAMAGE IN THAT DOORWAY?!?! #$%%$ HACKS. Idiots.

FYI I play on Miller...

I can understand that you're upset about being baned. But I still think SOE did nothing wrong here. You're just a casualty to the war on hackers. Besides no one here knows if your ban was right or wrong. You coming on here saying I'm innocent does not prove that. All it does is creating drama.

[Fortress]

Originally Posted by SGOniell

Both sides have good points. I agree there will be some people unfortunately banned when they don't deserve it, such is life. However, I do agree with the side with the bans here. Evidence presented seems reasonable enough, at least for your particular character. Others will have to present similar before being convinced entirely of their innocence though, just being fair. Also, coming on here all angry was a bit much, we're civilized, have a calm chat rather than exuding hate and anger. Also, Ritual, don't mess with Basti, not cool man.

What evidence?

[Aaron]

SKY looks completely legit from the vids. Looks as if he got banned for being the right thing at the right time in the right place to utterly slaughter the masses. Can you actually get banned for killing too many enemies?

Did you ever exploit any bugs or glitches? You know, SOE should consider providing video proof for banning well known players.

Yikes, this could also mean that I am on the chopping block! Me and my pitiful 20 FPS.

[PrISM]

Planetside 2 caters to the lowest common denominator. I'm certainly not surprised anymore at the ludicrous shit that this company manages to pull.

Future Crew does not cheat or hack. Any "evidence" that SOE claims to have is simply false.