Vehicle Deconstruction going away via Higby - Page 4

ComerEste · 2013-03-27, 02:42 PM

This was pretty much what happened last night when I read this tweet. My friends we're like WTF is he cheering about?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYjer...youtu.be&t=49s

MajorSquiggles · 2013-03-27, 02:42 PM

Wouldn't have a problem with this but now I have to just leave my flash sitting around. I can't break it because friendly fire is on it for some stupid reason. And now I have a huge flash decal covering a portion of my screen that I really wish wasn't there. At least let me turn it off when I'm not in the vehicle.

Monsta · 2013-03-27, 02:46 PM

We all did it a few times, and we're all perfectly fine with this change.

KodanBlack · 2013-03-27, 03:17 PM

Perfect! Now, get rid of that STUPID "/suicide" function, and we'll be golden. Shit players getting owned will no longer be able to deny that they were bested.

KodanBlack · 2013-03-27, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by Monsta

We all did it a few times, and we're all perfectly fine with this change.

Speak for yourself. I've never (reread NEVER) denied an opponent XP by deconstructing a vehicle. If it's going to go, I bail out, run away from it as it explodes, and get some cover to return fire. I've only deconstructed vehicles when they weren't needed anymore and I intended to go on foot, or spawn something else.

No, not "all" of us did it even a "few" times.

I don't /suicide, either. I take my death, respawn and charge back in. (Sometimes cursing, but I take the hit.)

bpostal · 2013-03-27, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by KodanBlack

Perfect! Now, get rid of that STUPID "/suicide" function, and we'll be golden. Shit players getting owned will no longer be able to deny that they were bested.

Take away the ability to use it in combat and I'll agree with taking it away.

Baneblade · 2013-03-27, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by KaskaMatej

Yea, you can, but what if the closest spawn is where you spawned the vehicle you now cannot decon?

Not sure why that would necessarily be a problem?

Jaybonaut · 2013-03-27, 07:10 PM

Gee wiz, I wonder if this will help sell the new launchers....

phungus · 2013-03-27, 07:47 PM

At first I though good, but then I realized that this means we wol't ever see XP granted sensically.

Higby doesn't get this is an MMO with XP being a key part of character advancement, xp denial has no place in such a setup, but his old griefing for fun roots keeps him holding onto these gameplay mechanics. Deconstructing wasn't the issue, the issue has always been about griefing players through XP denial, and deconing was just a minor part of that.

I can play that game, and enjoy the lulz as much as he does (I just don't think it's worth it from the flipside experience, and I really don't get how he thinks this makes sense in terms of the overall experience for the playerbase). If this is the fix then the game mechanics just now encourage me to logout now when I'm going down. Other then instagibbing AA MAX groups my enemies are going to have to get really lucky to get any XP from me in my ESFs.

p0intman · 2013-03-27, 08:19 PM

/palmface

thanks for abusing this mechanic so that those of us that use it legitimately when we're not in combat get to leave vehicles out in the open instead.

fucking idiots.

RogueAU · 2013-03-27, 09:55 PM

I'm happy to see it go!

Snydenthur · 2013-03-27, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by Assist

Are you going to stop playing because you're 'giving' exp to enemies? I never understood the rational of being able to make a vehicle disappear because you've decided you're done with it.

No, I'm not gonna stop. But first, why wouldn't you remove it if you know you'll be spending enough time where ever you are to be able to construct a new one? It's not needed so it can be removed. And secondly, my own problem is that I'm a bit sensitive about having stuff on screen where shouldn't be any and it really does bother me to have the vehicle on hud. Maybe I've played too much fps-games and it distracts me or I'm just crazy.

Snoopy · 2013-03-27, 11:36 PM

I don't think it's that bad. The number of times my vehicle has deconstructed due to the time limit being exceeded, or damaged without me noticing... I've lost count. I don't think I pay enough attention.

Climhazzard · 2013-03-28, 05:27 AM

Originally Posted by Snydenthur

Yes, it might be a positive change, but what bad would've it done to just implement the new system without first taking the whole deconstructing away for x amount of time.

Apparently its abuse-to-legitimate use ratio was so high that they felt it was better to remove it completely, even if temporarily, rather than keep it in until they implemented an alternative.

Of course, Higby did say that Deconstruct "may come back later", which means its removal is The Solution™ for the moment.

Originally Posted by Baneblade

Not sure why that would necessarily be a problem?

If you happen to get stuck at or near your destination, but that destination isn't near a friendly spawn point (let's say, an enemy base without a friendly AMS nearby), you're kind of screwed.

AVGamer · 2013-03-28, 10:39 AM

Wow yet another lazy solution to a problem. You don't just completely get rid of the ability to deconstruct thats stupid. Jez... Seriously just make it so you have to be out of combat to deconstruct it aint that hard godamit. We already have the system available with the auto heal tool in vehicles, just translate it that after 12 seconds out of combat you can deconstruct. Now I have to leave my flash or any other vehicle I abandon, out in the open for some random noob to get free certs from. This doesn't make ANY sense at all. I understand the rage because of noobs deconstructing just as they are about to die, but seriously deconstruct was a valuable ability once out of combat. I bet we will soon see a rise in these same noobs who instead of deconstructing, fly straight into the ground.