The VS don't use frigin lasers

[Cyanide]

Edit: There is no standard to how somone should live his life, if one wants to pursue the study of the sciences or remain secluded from society then thats alright. People really shouldn't judge this.

Yeah, like Ted Kazinski. Now there was an OK guy.

Seriously though. This is a game. If real world physics applied it wouldn't be fun. Why would i want to shoot somebody in a game with a laser if i could do it in real life?

/me makes list of people to shoot when he gets his first real laser pistol

1. Martha Stewart.
2. The annoying whelchers grape juice girl
3. Rosie O'donnel
4. Rosie O'donnel's ass
...

[Terik]

Originally posted by Cyanide
Yeah, like Ted Kazinski. Now there was an OK guy.

Seriously though. This is a game. If real world physics applied it wouldn't be fun. Why would i want to shoot somebody in a game with a laser if i could do it in real life?

/me makes list of people to shoot when he gets his first real laser pistol

1. Martha Stewart.
2. The annoying whelchers grape juice girl
3. Rosie O'donnel
4. Rosie O'donnel's ass
...

We really aren't talking about implementing real world physics into the game, I'm just trying to prove the weapons that the Vanu use that some people call lasers are either some kind of particle beam weapon or something else entirely.

Well, in response to your hitlist:

[Vimp]

I think you are confusing "laser" with "beam of light". They are simelar but not identical. Lasers come in different forms as far as what people call a laser. For instance the laser pointers on a gun are merely a tight beam of light. However a true laser is more then a tight beam of light but rather it is "a device that utilizes the ability of certain substances to absorb electromagnetic energy and re-radiate it as a highly focused beam of synchronized single-wavelength radiation." Notice theres no mention of light in the deffinition? thats probably because light is merely a result from a laser but not the laser itself.

[Terik]

Originally posted by Vimp
I think you are confusing "laser" with "beam of light". They are simelar but not identical. Lasers come in different forms as far as what people call a laser. For instance the laser pointers on a gun are merely a tight beam of light. However a true laser is more then a tight beam of light but rather it is "a device that utilizes the ability of certain substances to absorb electromagnetic energy and re-radiate it as a highly focused beam of synchronized single-wavelength radiation." Notice theres no mention of light in the deffinition? thats probably because light is merely a result from a laser but not the laser itself.

Oh, well then, you just ended this whole debate. *smacks head* Damnit ofcoarse! I should have looked up the definition of laser before going through all this crap. : /

[Vimp]

Just because you may have read the deffinition in no way implies that you obviously understand the deffinition.

[Cyanide]

Originally posted by Terik
We really aren't talking about implementing real world physics into the game, I'm just trying to prove the weapons that the Vanu use that some people call lasers are either some kind of particle beam weapon or something else entirely.

Well, in response to your hitlist:

LOL...That rofl smiley really looks like it's masturbating.

[Vimp]

Sorry, let me explain further.
A laser is an emission of radiation and radiation is made up of particles which themselves can radiate light thus the sources of light are not just at the point of fire but can be seen throughout the beam because the particles are traveling through the beam and those particles can emit light thus the beam is seen even from the side and even in a vacuum.

[Terik]

Originally posted by Vimp
Sorry, let me explain further.
A laser is an emission of radiation and radiation is made up of particles which themselves can radiate light thus the sources of light are not just at the point of fire but can be seen throughout the beam because the particles are traveling through the beam and those particles can emit light thus the beam is seen even from the side and even in a vacuum.

But Vimp, I've seen light laser beams and if you shine it through clean dustless air or through a vacuum, you really can't see it from the side, try doing it with a laser pointer. You can gettem off the street for around a buck.

Edit: Now the beam could not have been made of light not visible to the human eye becuase when the beam hit something I could see the reflected light clearly.

[Sanjiro1987]

I love it when people get technical

and about the lazers: yeah, the vanu don't really use lazers.

- BTW i'm new here.

[Diego]

Wow..


Thats all I have to say to this topic.. Sad..

[Robot]

the vanu weapons shoot colorful beams of light that melt your brain

END

[Vimp]

Terik I already mentioned that light lasers are that way but a simple light laser is not a weapon. A laser can radiate anything not just light. If it were to be used as a weapon it would not merely radiate light and it could potentially be seen based on what it is radiating. Point being a Laser weapon can potentially be seen making your statement incorrect with regard to all lasers not being visible.

[zMessiahz]

Originally posted by Vimp
Terik I already mentioned that light lasers are that way but a simple light laser is not a weapon. A laser can radiate anything not just light. If it were to be used as a weapon it would not merely radiate light and it could potentially be seen based on what it is radiating. Point being a Laser weapon can potentially be seen making your statement incorrect with regard to all lasers not being visible.

Damn d00d, you need to read more. Forgive me, but I must argue physics for a little bit, but not its place within the game.

LASER stands for Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation. Light, light, light. This means that electromagnetic energy in the categories of Infrared, visible, and ultra-violet create a laser. Not any other form of electromagnetic energy. Also, unless you purport to understand quantum physics (which from your posts filled with false information it is obvious that you do not), stop calling the energy of a laser particles.

No photon in a laser has the ability to be a light source as you claimed earlier. It is light already. It does contain energy and said energy CAN excite the electrons of some given particle enoguh that they change energy states and realease more visible light. But said particle must have electrons in the proper energy state to be able to jump to the next higher energy state from a single photon from the laser. The energy must be exact as well. If said particle does not fit this criteria the photons simply pass by, never absorbed. If they are never absorbed that energy can not be re-released. It just so happens that the molecules that make up "air" do not fit these criteria, however, the common molecules of "dust" do.

Now lets contain ourselves to the visible spectrum because we will never see anything else with the naked eye. Your vision works by photons of light striking receptors in your eye. Let me translate that for you, you can't see squat unless the light from some source goes into your eye. Coherent light all travels int he same direction, so unless you are in that direct path YOU WILL NOT SEE IT. Outside of that small path you can only observe a laser through a round about way. By placing some material in its path. Even then you are seeing light emitted by those particles you placed in its path, not the laser itself.

Yeah ok so I really feel like a geek now.

*beats chest* Me MAX betta den j00 MAX! (ok I feel better now)

[NeoTassadar]

You are forgetting that lasers that do not exite the air particles enough to radiate light are the low-power, constant beam ones we have today. The ones in this games are fired off in bursts were more energy than we can put into one today (besides the sattelite-killers) into a beam only about 5 feet long. That much energy hitting at once would exite the air molecules enough to emit light, most likely. Not even the sattelite-killers we have today have that energy density. Their beams are several miles long and last for about 10 seconds constant before they melt the thing. The Vanu's are 2-5 ft. and the bursts last a few milliseconds at the most.

[Terik]

Originally posted by zMessiahz
Damn d00d, you need to read more. Forgive me, but I must argue physics for a little bit, but not its place within the game.

LASER stands for Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation. Light, light, light. This means that electromagnetic energy in the categories of Infrared, visible, and ultra-violet create a laser. Not any other form of electromagnetic energy. Also, unless you purport to understand quantum physics (which from your posts filled with false information it is obvious that you do not), stop calling the energy of a laser particles.

No photon in a laser has the ability to be a light source as you claimed earlier. It is light already. It does contain energy and said energy CAN excite the electrons of some given particle enoguh that they change energy states and realease more visible light. But said particle must have electrons in the proper energy state to be able to jump to the next higher energy state from a single photon from the laser. The energy must be exact as well. If said particle does not fit this criteria the photons simply pass by, never absorbed. If they are never absorbed that energy can not be re-released. It just so happens that the molecules that make up "air" do not fit these criteria, however, the common molecules of "dust" do.

Now lets contain ourselves to the visible spectrum because we will never see anything else with the naked eye. Your vision works by photons of light striking receptors in your eye. Let me translate that for you, you can't see squat unless the light from some source goes into your eye. Coherent light all travels int he same direction, so unless you are in that direct path YOU WILL NOT SEE IT. Outside of that small path you can only observe a laser through a round about way. By placing some material in its path. Even then you are seeing light emitted by those particles you placed in its path, not the laser itself.

Yeah ok so I really feel like a geek now.

*beats chest* Me MAX betta den j00 MAX! (ok I feel better now)

So I was right (well except for how the electrons emit photons, but I was damn close). Maybe I'll feel better myself if I try to live my life a little more... simplistically.

*starts getting high on testosterone*

*10 mins later*

UUURG! RAAAARG! ME SMASH NEW CONGLOMERATE SCUM! GRRRR!