The other side of the argument: What am I getting for my money?

[FastAndFree]

Originally Posted by Crator

I kind of feel the same way about hats and such. There will be no 3rd-person view for infantry. Why would I buy something I can't see on myself?

Vanity, duh. You know that others will see it

[Bags]

Originally Posted by FastAndFree

Vanity, duh. You know that others will see it

This. If rarely being able to see it stopped people, TF2 wouldn't have ahts any more.

[DOUBLEXBAUGH]

Originally Posted by Highwind

We've heard rumors about how the Devs want to limit you to one empire per account, because it makes "some" sense, we don't want to have easy mass empire switching to the "winning team of the day".

Obviously you could make another SOE account to play another empire under the F2P model, but what if I don't want to bother? It might be a small inconvenience, but I would pay a one time fee of like $5-10 to have multiple empires on my account. Another option would be to have this be a perk of a subscription, but it would have to be grandfathered in if you even canceled after one month because locking you out of your characters would be unacceptable.

I don't plan to empire hop, I like TR, but I also like all of Planetside. I plan to play it all sooner or later, including the other empire unique experiences. I think that it could be one way to earn them some money if they need more ideas... because if you are really cheap, you have a way around it too.

You can have multiple empires on 1 account, just not on the same server.

[megamold]

Originally Posted by Skitrel

This is a good point and I'll support it, just as I'm sure many other oldies will. Some collectible stuff, art books, even a proper book perhaps, etc etc. All stuff the fanatics will certainly buy.

Also because having a physical disc is always awesome, even if it is outdated before it even gets put in the machine.

its got my support to

[Effective]

Originally Posted by UnknownDT

you're dumb!

Those are fighting words good sir.

[megamold]

Originally Posted by Effective

Those are fighting words good sir.

oh snap !

*grabs some popcorn*

[fod]

im having similar problems to the OP although i dont want any advantage
i WANT to spend money and support PS2 but im not interested at all in cosmetic items - maybe the sidegrades but after i have purchased all that i want then what next?
i preferred the old subscription model where everyone had access to the same things and everyone was supporting the game

[Fortress]

I will pay for light helmets that don't look they belong on a bicyclist.

[UnknownDT]

Originally Posted by Effective

Those are fighting words good sir.

you and me

[Highwind]

Originally Posted by DOUBLEXBAUGH

You can have multiple empires on 1 account, just not on the same server.

Depending on how they break up the servers I think my point still stands, if they break up the server like PS1 at launch:

• Johari (Western United States) (my original server)
• Markov (Western United States)

• Konried (Eastern United States)
• Emerald (Eastern United States)
• Werner (Europe)
• Jackson (Europe)

And I want to keep playing with and killing the people within that server's community shouldn't that be an option? After playing for a while you get to know people on your empire and on others via tells and interactions that for me really added to the planetside experience. Playing on Emerald to play another empire felt foreign, the outfits were all wrong, the empire balance was different, I didn't know anyone friendly or enemy. For me I much preferred having all my characters on Johari, later Markov, than spreading them over servers even with the lock out penalties back in the day.

I think you should be able to pay to unlock that same server multi-empire switching if you want to (assuming we are limited in the first place) because it lets you play with who you know, and that used to matter to me at least. I also feel like if they did this, a 30-45 min empire lockout would be perfect, 2 hours+ was too long, combined with same server empire switching being a unique thing only a few would buy it wouldn't be a balance issue.

[Tehroth]

If they make this game pay to win, I am done with it.

[StumpyTheOzzie]

Originally Posted by UnknownDT

Also I'd like to be able to camo that suit to full black on pink spots.

First time I've actually lol'd for a long time.

Reminds me of Ali G's crew's "camouflage."

[StumpyTheOzzie]

Originally Posted by fod

im having similar problems to the OP although i dont want any advantage
i WANT to spend money and support PS2 but im not interested at all in cosmetic items - maybe the sidegrades but after i have purchased all that i want then what next?
i preferred the old subscription model where everyone had access to the same things and everyone was supporting the game

so buy stuff and don't use it. Was that so hard?

I DONT want to pay. At all, ever.

[Atheosim]

Originally Posted by fod

im having similar problems to the OP although i dont want any advantage
i WANT to spend money and support PS2 but im not interested at all in cosmetic items - maybe the sidegrades but after i have purchased all that i want then what next?
i preferred the old subscription model where everyone had access to the same things and everyone was supporting the game

i'm pretty much positive that there will still be a premium membership model. so you can still pay monthly all you want

[StumpyTheOzzie]

I just remembered: Eve sold monocles for characters for ~$61 US. They did nothing except look cool.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/06/22/ev...s-70-monocles/

In 2 months, 184 monocles have been sold.

So what you think isn't worth buying doesn't matter because there's someone else out there who is going to think it IS worth buying.

Either way, SOE isn't going to be short on cash 2 weeks after launch.