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Old 2002-12-17, 09:29 PM   [Ignore Me] #61
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Battle of Lake Erie....Brits in Canadia vs US POWER

Admiral Oliver Hazard Perry owns Her Majesty's Royal Navy.

British retreat back into the hellhole known affectionately to them as Canada.
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Old 2002-12-17, 11:56 PM   [Ignore Me] #62
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Did the British take over Canada again, because there was no (country of) Canada when the British burned the White House.
Well by that logic the american revolution was never an american war since there was no (country of) America since you weren't a officially a country till the rebel colonies won the war.
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Old 2002-12-17, 11:58 PM   [Ignore Me] #63
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oh but we were. we declared our independence and then went to war over it.

had we lost...our declaring our independence wouldnt have meant jack....but at the time we were america, and since we won, we stayed america.
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Old 2002-12-18, 12:08 AM   [Ignore Me] #64
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Originally posted by Whoracle
oh but we were. we declared our independence and then went to war over it.

had we lost...our declaring our independence wouldnt have meant jack....but at the time we were america, and since we won, we stayed america.
Exactly, had you lost you wouldn't have been america, so you weren't really a fully fledged country yet.

It's like if i screamed out loud "I'm eMa's sEx slAve!!!" it doesn't mean i am till she spanks me and we....uhhhh anyway....ummmmm bye!
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Old 2002-12-18, 02:24 AM   [Ignore Me] #65
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we WERE a full fledged country...just nobody wanted to recognize us for fear of the british government and the repercussions.

after we whupped ass they recognized us for what we were.
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Old 2002-12-18, 02:40 PM   [Ignore Me] #66
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Originally posted by Dio
Well by that logic the american revolution was never an american war since there was no (country of) America since you weren't a officially a country till the rebel colonies won the war.
Silly Canadian.

The British burned the White House durring the war of 1812, not the Revolutionary War. The White House wasn't even built until after the Revolutionary war. Anything else in American History you want to know?

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Old 2002-12-18, 02:59 PM   [Ignore Me] #67
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Silly Canadian.

The British burned the White House durring the war of 1812, not the Revolutionary War. The White House wasn't even built until after the Revolutionary war. Anything else in American History you want to know?

Ummm....

I never said anything about the burning of white house, i was saying since by your logic Canada wasn't Canada it was a british colony then during the american revolution USA wasn't USA yet it was just 13 british colonies pissed off at their king.
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Old 2002-12-18, 03:26 PM   [Ignore Me] #68
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Oh.....

Well then I have to agree with Whoracle. The U.S. became the U.S. when they released the Declaration of Indepenance.
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Old 2002-12-18, 03:30 PM   [Ignore Me] #69
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I somehow figure americans would say that. So the fact that the 13 british colonies were only an official country after they won the war isn't important. Ok gotcha!
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Old 2002-12-18, 03:35 PM   [Ignore Me] #70
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no. we were. what you are failing to realize is that when they declared independence from British rule, they became a free country.

end story.

whether or not the British recognized the new country or just as their rebellious colonies, makes no difference. they were a new country.

other countries DID acknowledge their independence BEFORE we won that war. The French recognized us as a independent nation before the war was won.

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didnt think so
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Old 2002-12-18, 03:37 PM   [Ignore Me] #71
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*ahem* Much burning ensued, and it was by people from North of the border. So bite me.
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Old 2002-12-18, 03:57 PM   [Ignore Me] #72
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you are aware that you lost that war. so bite me.
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Old 2002-12-18, 04:15 PM   [Ignore Me] #73
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Marauder i suggest you follow my lead and simply give up this pointless debate.

You will never get an american to admit they are wrong, it just won't happen.
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Old 2002-12-18, 04:24 PM   [Ignore Me] #74
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especially when the other party is wrong and is just bullshitting
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Old 2002-12-18, 05:05 PM   [Ignore Me] #75
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I doubt anyone in Canada has ever read this so your lack of understanding is understanable. This is the last paragraph of The Declaration of Indepenance.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America,* in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.
*A nation is born.
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