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Originally posted by {BOHICA}Navaron
Hoss, don't start with me, you'll end up like the rest. Keep your silly second grade profanities to yourself. You have obviously very little comprehension of the subject, and your teacher must have less.
a) "They have all US military stuff because we give it to them"
WRONG - THEY BUY IT FROM US
b) "That country would be such a shit hole even if it existed still without our money."
Wrong - the fact that they one their independance with almost no US support must not reign in on your little fantasy history.
c) "Israel took over the Sinai which is not very important it is not very important thats why when they made peace with the Egyptians because they could get peace without giving up much."
Wrong yet again - The Sinai pennensula is the most important strip of land out there, for religious and historical reasons. They made peace with the Egyptian because Russia and the Cold Bloc were about to get involved which means the US would have also, and that would have started WW3. They got attacked, kicked ass, and quit while they were ahead.
d) "I hope Israel gets theres."
Maybe your teacher's an anti Semite too.
e) "Israel has no modern ties to that land"
WRONG - they have as many rights to that land as the US does to Texas. Unfortunately for you, the entire world, including the UN and US disagree with you.
f) " Don't tell me I'm wrong either I wrote a huge report and this thing and got a 98 BITCH"
- the joys of public school. Did you take fuzzy math with Al Gore, because you've mastered fuzzy history. Bitch.
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A. Oh me oh my I messed up your right they do buy their weapons from us with the money we give thems woopsie so silly of me
B. Israel did not win any of its wars on its own. The Allies did infact help arm the Israelis in the War of independence and it did not win any others on its own either. It is common knowledge that Israel depends on the Foriegn aid that it is given.
C. The Sinai is infact a deserted waste land it doesn't have much going for it except the canal that links the red S and the Med S. I haven't heard about the Soviets getting involved in that area thats interesting never heard about that. Just proves we all learn something knew every day. Send me an offical link about this I wanna read about this.
D. When I said I hope Israel gets theirs I meant I hope the US wakes up and realizes that Israel is commiting horrific war crimes and is able to get away with it ! did u hear that a few months ago they blew up a clearly marked UN food storage building for the Palestinians and nothing happened !!! Did u think I meant I hope Israel gets nuked and gassed my god thats horrible I didn't mean it like that jesus I hope that isn't what everyone thinks I must seem like Hitler 2
You know Israel's main political claim to that land is the Balfour declaration and they clearly violate that !
Foreign Office
November 2nd, 1917
Dear Lord Rothschild,
I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet.
"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by **** in any other country."
I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.
Yours sincerely,
Arthur James Balfour
Well Israel seems to be ignoring a large part of that to me. Not to mention the Geneva convention and human right policies.
E. America's claim to Texas comes from texas's decesion to be annexed into the union... well maybe pressured in 1945 otherwise the Mexicans would have reconquered Texas. Luckily we fought them back from 1946-1948
okay here's a rough history of Israel I'm pretty sure these dates are right but there from the top of my head
1800BCE Abraham leads the Hebrews from Babylon to Canaan the promised because Abraham was told by god if they worshiped him that Abraham and the Hebrews could live in Canaan (first part of old testament I believe)
1300BCE big drought in Canaan and so the Hewbrews go to Nile where they are enslaved by the Egyptians
1200BCE Moses and the exodus lead the people from Egypt back to Canaan and gets the 10 commandments on top of mount Sinai (but it could have been 15 !!!)
this is there first period of leave it was 100 years
1025-930BCE David and son Solomon make Israel strong but then Solomon dies and Israel divides into 12 tribes
722BCEAssyrians the empire bathed in blood and first to use Iron weapons conquers Israel which is rebuilt only to be conquered by the Neo Babylonians in 586 BCE who are then conquered by the Persians 540 BCE or so. This is the time when the Torrah was written so the Jewish traditions could be preserved.
They were conquered twice good thing they still felt like the land was theirs until...
The great revolt against the Roman Occupation of Canaan in 70 BCE where the romans say
and conquer Israel scattering the **** across the world also called the diaspora.
the land was held by many different Empires after this until the beginning of the Zionist movement in 1881 where the immagration begins. They created a "defense" foce called the Hagganah which really seem like Jewish terrorist to me.
After WWI right after the collapse of the Ottomon Empire which had competely united the Middle east but was already dieing before WWI. The British sent the Balfour declaration which is posted above. the immgration continued through the 3rd 4th and 5th aliyot and about 330,000 more **** arrive in palestine.
After world War II the world was horrified at what hitler had done so it was decided that the **** should have a homeland where they could finally escape persucution.
1947CE the UN partition plan which would have made two separate states an Israel and Palestine but the War of Independence screwed that up ! is created but is no taccepted by Arab countries for 2 reasons 1) no arab countries were allowed to help make the plan 2) Palestine would have been a bunch of Islands within Israel.
1948CE-1973CE many wars against Arab countries all of which are won be Israel and the rest of the Allies.
1976CE Egypt and Israel make peace Sadat, Begin. Israel gives up the Sinai and in return Egypt gets 1 billion a year from US because Egypt was in bad shape from declaring war on Israel so much.
1987CE the first infitada
1993CE Oslo Peace agreement between Yassir Arafat and Rabin. The plan was that Israel was going to hand over land section by section. When Rabin was assasinated in 1994 the plan didn't work as well.
This leads us all here
as you can see Israel did leave the land for 1900 years and was able to call it its own mostly because the world backed them up out of simpathy otherwise the idea probauly would have been considered ludicrous !
F. see Bohica not everyone is an ignorant asshole who doesn't have their facts right I do know some. Don't attack my school or academics you bastard. and the Bitch thing was meant to be joke to take away from the tone of seriousness from an issue.
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