Sniping....rehashed... - Page 5

NeoTassadar · 2003-03-03, 04:54 PM

I'm pretty sure the only thing that limits the Lancer considerably in sniping is that it will draw a huge purple line right to you. Read up on it, if you're interested in taking the argument further (you DO want to make sure you know what you're talking about, don't you?).

TheJrade · 2003-03-09, 02:21 AM

Are ya sure it's the second fastest in the game, I haven't seen that, where is it?

There may be a big purple line to you, but if the wrong end of the big purple line ends in a smoking red or blue corpse, then what's the big deal? If it IS indeed that fast a projectile/beam/whatever, I can't imagine anyone being in any condition to come after you after you pop them with it. Unless they've got friends around, in which case you should have picked someone else to pick on. Unless you've got friends, in which case they'll be sorry they came to pick on you.

In CnC Renegade, there are two sniper rifles, the harder-hitting of the two leaves a visible trail. Some folks prefer the extra power over stealth. I myself use the weaker one and stay hidden. Choice is good.

Lexington_Steele · 2003-03-09, 02:30 AM

SmokeJumper said that he thought the lancer was the second fastest weapon in the shoutcast (or it might have been the dev chat just days earlier, one of the two).

TheJrade · 2003-03-09, 09:10 AM

I was just poking around the screeshots and saw this one: http://www.planetside-universe.com/m...php?img_id=371 which seems to show a bolt rather than a beam...?

Additionally, anyone else notice the shots of the VS guy in front of the Vanguard tank with the VS markings in the other screenshots on this page?

Must have taken it to Pay'n'Spray after he jacked it to get rid of some of his stars...

Zatrais · 2003-03-09, 09:12 AM

Thats the Lasher, it fires orbs that lash out at enemies and detonate on impact

NeoTassadar · 2003-03-09, 04:03 PM

You're forgetting that there are hundreds/thousands of other players and that specific player will likely have eight or ten buddies, Jrade. Of course, I will too. Yes I am sure, also. It's in the Devchats.

Whoah, Lasher shoots that fast?

TheJrade · 2003-03-10, 03:44 AM

Oops, confuzzed, which part are you sure about?

I meant to say that the weapon in that screenshot was the Lasher (as it says so in the caption) and go on to say that not all VS weapons are beams and thus illustrate my point that the Lancer is probably a (comparatively) slow-moving bolt weapon... but it was 5 in the morning and I was half asleep. Pesky video-gaming induced sleep deprivation...

Yep, I think the Lasher will fire that fast. All the empire-specific assault weapons are roughly equivalent to each other, just a little different in execution. All three have pistols, knives, and assault rifles with differences so minor as to almost be cosmetic in nature only. The only real hand-weaponry differences between the empires are in the two big guns for each side.

The anti-vehicle weapons have actual, noticeable, differences. The TR Striker has an auto-homing feature which makes it more useful in most situations due to it's fire and forget capabilities. The NC Phoenix is operator-guided, making it very useful in certain other situations (firing over walls, scouting ahead, etc.) but less useful in combat. The VS appears to be a dumbfire bolt/beam with no homing ability. (more on that later)

The BIG difference is in the heavy assault rifle. (Useless fact: also known as a 'battle rifle,' a term in use with the militaries of most non-NATO nations, but not used here in the US since the introduction of the M-16) The TR Mini-Chaingun, the NC Jackhammer, and the VS Lasher are all meant to be wielded by heavy infantry and useful against both infantry in close quarters and light vehicles in open country. Thus, they all must fire fast AND hit hard. This power is balanced by requiring a cert specifically for this one weapon. If yer a combat wombat, the battle rifle is the way to go, thus endeth my long-winded yapping.

Lastly, I think I may now be convinced the Lancer is a super-fast bolt, as if it does not home in on a moving target, it would have to be fast to be balanced. It is probably a lot weaker in hitting power than the other empire's A-V weapons, but weaker than a TOW missile is still plenty to vape some hapless TR unwashed-yet-deadly grunt who thinks he's safe from snipers in his reinforced armor...

P.S. If any devs are listening, more variety between the sides please. Which did you like better, Starcraft (three sides different) or Dune 2000? (three sides same) Perhaps the first expansion pack...?

Zatrais · 2003-03-10, 07:20 AM

Smokejumper has said that the lancer has the 2nd fastest traveltime, 2nd only to the boltdriver.

Subliminal · 2003-03-10, 11:59 AM

How did this get dug up a week after it died

anyway, the way i see it the 2nd best sniper rifle will be the Gauss. I see the Vanu weps as useless because of the trails.

NeoTassadar · 2003-03-10, 04:36 PM

Gauss is assualt rifle, will probably have (when zoomed in) a very large CoF, as high accuracy is only specified for the Pulsar (I think that's what it's called) in the descriptions of assault rifles. Plus, "High" damage is a relatively broad term. Will probably be on the low end of "High" damage, making it necessary to fire repeatedly to kill someone, making that CoF bigger. Although that is speculation. I hate NDA.