Gore Pack Idea - Page 5

Crator · 2012-08-04, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by Gugabalog

Players are assembled by nanites not made up of them.

Ha, idea for medium gore setting then?

vVRedOctoberVv · 2012-08-04, 11:31 AM

I see the monetisation aspect of this... but I still think it's stupid. Gore? Really? It adds nothing of value.

Gugabalog · 2012-08-04, 11:49 AM

It makes kills more satisfying and adds an over the top hollywoodesque action film feel to the game.

(I hate hollywood's guts with my whole being, but some people think the stuff that place spits out is fun so why not?)

opticalshadow · 2012-08-04, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by vVRedOctoberVv

I see the monetisation aspect of this... but I still think it's stupid. Gore? Really? It adds nothing of value.

neither do giraffe pants, but if someone will drop 5 bucks to wear teh pants, then theres the value

if the gore pack could sell, could make profits, and it wouldnt effect anyoens game but the user who bought it, it would have 0 negative value.

and rating systems are stupid anyways. games with "deathmatch" game mode, my only objective is to brutally murder other people for no reason, is ok, but i cant say ass without it being censored?

Sturmhardt · 2012-08-04, 11:55 AM

I just want to point out something that is very important to me: I would rather have them develop a gorepack than playerhousing or the like. Playerhousing and stuff like that is gay, that shit belongs in a world like WoW, not in some badass FPS.
"Oh look what a nice couch that dude has!" ugh..... plz no :/

opticalshadow · 2012-08-04, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by Sturmhardt

I just want to point out something that is very important to me: I would rather have them develop a gorepack than playerhousing or the like. Playerhousing and stuff like that is gay, that shit belongs in a world like WoW, not in some badass FPS.
"Oh look what a nice couch that dude has!" ugh..... plz no :/

do keep in mind that the type of player housing in ps2 is being looked at to be player built and owned bases. not just decoration.

Sturmhardt · 2012-08-04, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by opticalshadow

do keep in mind that the type of player housing in ps2 is being looked at to be player built and owned bases. not just decoration.

Yes and I hope they keep it that way... sometimes the transition is fluid. I hope they keep it clean and dont "overfeature" the game with stuff like that. Right now the existing bases are well distributed and fit to the surrounding areas.... I dont think its such a great idea to give every dude with a creditcard the possibility to build his base on top of the next hill.... might get stupid if everyone wants to do it. I know, offtopic, but somehow nobody seems to worry about stuff like that.

opticalshadow · 2012-08-04, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by Sturmhardt

Yes and I hope they keep it that way... sometimes the transition is fluid. I hope they keep it clean and dont "overfeature" the game with stuff like that. Right now the existing bases are well distributed and fit to the surrounding areas.... I dont think its such a great idea to give every dude with a creditcard the possibility to build his base on top of the next hill.... might get stupid if everyone wants to do it. I know, offtopic, but somehow nobody seems to worry about stuff like that.

in one of the AGN's i think july's. higby tossed out that player bases will have their own landmass, it wont be apart of the normal ones. this is why i think it will follow a darkfall method, we will have limited area for it, and it makes the bases worth captureing, it makes the gameplay emergent, and if its its own landmass, it keeps it out of the rest of the game (so it gives the big outfits a playground to beat each otehr up on)

Sturmhardt · 2012-08-04, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by opticalshadow

in one of the AGN's i think july's. higby tossed out that player bases will have their own landmass, it wont be apart of the normal ones. this is why i think it will follow a darkfall method, we will have limited area for it, and it makes the bases worth captureing, it makes the gameplay emergent, and if its its own landmass, it keeps it out of the rest of the game (so it gives the big outfits a playground to beat each otehr up on)

That doesnt sound too bad, I think I read your post in the other thread regarding this matter. Lets see how they are gonna implement it...

Masterr · 2012-08-04, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by Timealude

I think it would be hard to get it rated as a T game with gore in it, and im sure thats what they are aiming for with this game.

I guess have the "state your age" thing before you purchase the gore pack and have w/e legal stuff that would make SOE not binding to the pack or w/e they need to do for the CORE GAME to be rated T. If that's the case, they rating won't be effected and everyone can go about their day :P

Originally Posted by SixShooter

So this thread led me on an interesting journey through my past which ended up with me trying to find my favorite quote from Jello Biafra in regards to Tipper Gore (Al Gore's wife) and the PMRC where Jello said "If John Denver tells you that you've got your head up you ass, don't you probably have your head up your ass". Either way, the PMRC probably did more to help record sales than anything the record companies ever could have done.

Parental Advisory (digital mixtape) - YouTube

So back on topic..

I grew up on Pong, Pac Man and Space Invaders (yes I'm an old basterd). When crazy shit like Doom and Quake started happening I was thrilled. Resident Evil and Silent Hill carried on the tradition of blood, gore and evil and I loved it.

I still dig that kind of shit in games but there are so many games that fuck it up and do it wrong and even more that just shouldn't have it.

Planetside is one of those games that totally doesn't need it and should not have it. I say this as a fan of gory movies, gory video games, fucked up gory literature and all things inbetween.

There is a time and place for that kind of stuff and PS2 is neither the time nor the place. If I want to play a game with that kind of element I will go play that other game. I will play PS2 to experience the Planetside universe gameplay and all things can exist on their own.

Then don't buy the gore pack.

Masterr · 2012-08-04, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by RageMasterUK

Upon careful consideration I think when players get shot they should hemmorage nanites instead. The nanites should be red. =D

People uncomfortable with gore should'nt buy a gore pack. But please, just speak for yourself and dont try and dissuade SOE from putting it in. You dont like gore, dont get it.

I thought about this for a moment...

O. M. G. WAR isnt attractive or pretty m8. So why are we here looking forward to a war game? ESCAPISM. The reason you, I, everyone on this damn forum plays games like this is because we want to have this experience without being directly connected and affected by it, and without it affecting other folks. Similarly want to see digital gore because we know it exists in context but we dont really want to see it IRL. Its not because we're all sadists. We're just curious to see a full representation of our simulated experience...

There are people who participate in and support the bombing and shooting of people in real life. If people have a problem with gore they should start by campaining against their countries military actions, and not by stopping a few red pixels on other peoples monitors.

-RageMasterUK

i like u.

Originally Posted by WildVS

No way this game will or should have gore. Being F2P they cannot limit their audience. Let me ask you. Would you not play the game if it had gore? hell no. Would you not play or not be allowed to play the game if it had gore? hell yes. And no way is it worth developer time to construct graphics models of brain splatters and such for a small amount of people. Get over it

obviously didnt read the OP.

Originally Posted by vVRedOctoberVv

I see the monetisation aspect of this... but I still think it's stupid. Gore? Really? It adds nothing of value.

and hood ornaments/skins do?

Masterr · 2012-08-04, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by Gugabalog

I personally think ratings agencies can go out the window. Especially considering how inconsistent and lacking in transparency they are.

On Topic: I don't see why a game that consists solely of online interaction can be rated, much less an *optional* addition for that same nigh unrateable content.

i have to agree with you. No gore, but you got kids saying that your mom sucked their **** and about sodomy and crap. But, NO, the game can't have blood....

Originally Posted by WildVS

Yes I did. Optionally? So we gonna have to pay some art devs and level programmers to make deterministic game behavior to display or not display gore based on a few people who care to see such shit? They have far more pressing things to concern themselves with.

talking about later down the road, post release, when they are adding content basically. why limit SOE's ability to make money, if there is a demand.....make it happen.

Gugabalog · 2012-08-04, 01:00 PM

Why can't an OPTIONAL gore pack be run clientside?

Masterr · 2012-08-04, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by Gugabalog

Why can't an OPTIONAL gore pack be run clientside?

well my idea is a gore pack, purchased by you, that runs client-side. with it being optional, the games ratings will be unfavorable to SOE and get rated M or something. Black Light Retribution has heads exploding but SOE does not want to limit its client base. However if you purchase a "gore add-on", it gives SOE money, its a cosmetic/feature thing (no p2w), and if there is a procedure (put ur birth date, ect.) they could probably still have a rated T game.

Gugabalog · 2012-08-04, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by Masterr

well my idea is a gore pack, purchased by you, that runs client-side. with it being optional, the games ratings will be unfavorable to SOE and get rated M or something. Black Light Retribution has heads exploding but SOE does not want to limit its client base. However if you purchase a "gore add-on", it gives SOE money, its a cosmetic/feature thing (no p2w), and if there is a procedure (put ur birth date, ect.) they could probably still have a rated T game.

Exactly! So many nanny-state people here.