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Old 2013-03-15, 05:19 PM   [Ignore Me] #61
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Re: Wow no crossbow thread yet...


Originally Posted by PoisonTaco View Post
I like the concept of it, but this really doesn't fit into Planetside all that well.

Why would the TR use crossbows? They use conventional weaponry. They don't need crossbows, they've got all the economic and production power of the Terran Republic.

Why would the NC use crossbows? Maybe if they ran out of rifle ammo? I doubt it. These guys have corporate sponsors. I doubt they'd buy crossbows over gauss weapons.

Why would the VS use crossbows? Did they find alien artifacts that looked like them? Using such an old weapon would totally go against what the VS are all about.
Exactly. Crossbows are not necessarily bad, but they simply don't fit in with the lore or the aesthetic style of this game. As you so rightly said, the three empires all have very good reasons for not using crossbows over the weapons already available to them. Crossbow bolts travel slower then bullets. If you could double a projectile's mass or double its velocity, you'd double its velocity (kinetic energy = 1/2xmassxvelocity^2). And crossbows are hardly 'stealthy'.

If crossbows are better then guns, then why did guns (remember that we're talking about single-shot rifles where you had to spend time stuffing everything down the barrel at this time) replace them?
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Old 2013-03-15, 05:32 PM   [Ignore Me] #62
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Well although I do agree Crossbows are out of place, wasn't the main reason that guns replaced bows that you could train any peasant to fire a gun in a few weeks, including the march and drill, as opposed to years of training to use and accuratly aim a bow.
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Old 2013-03-15, 07:59 PM   [Ignore Me] #63
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I have a lot of things on my ps2 prefect game list. Crossbow isnt on that list.
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Old 2013-03-15, 08:18 PM   [Ignore Me] #64
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I see nothing wrong with adding a crossbow, although I do see a number of the usual complainers, complaining.

Number of different things come to mind that would make a crossbow useful, especially for Infil or LA Covert Ops stuff; Tracking darts, Explosive Sticky heads, Marker flares, Silent kills. Probably more if I thought on it.
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Old 2013-03-15, 09:13 PM   [Ignore Me] #65
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Originally Posted by OctavianAXFive View Post
Joking: What's next, a siege catapult for launching players over fortifications?
Like you wouldn't want to launch players into an Amp Station?
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Old 2013-03-17, 04:20 AM   [Ignore Me] #66
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Strange I don't see any thread about the new maxes weapons concept, so I will do a search.
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Old 2013-03-17, 06:39 AM   [Ignore Me] #67
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It doesn't fit, as simple as that.

Maybe they are thinking of something to put in LA tool slot? Folding arms and collapsing m4-style stock would make it a very compact weapon.

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Old 2013-03-17, 07:33 AM   [Ignore Me] #68
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Why doesnt it fit ? we have combat knives t kill with, i don't see why this is any more ridiculous. At least it's a different gun model that wont be copied from the others.
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Old 2013-03-17, 12:42 PM   [Ignore Me] #69
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Why doesnt it fit ? we have combat knives t kill with, i don't see why this is any more ridiculous. At least it's a different gun model that wont be copied from the others.
Whoa the difference is huge! A knife is a small versatile multipurpose tool that any infantry is likely to be carrying because...well, there's not a single reason not to carry it A knife is so basic that I can't think of an FPS in won't fit in.

A crossbow, on the other hand, is a clunky, heavy, huge and extremely situational weapon. There's a reason we only see those in action movies and video games.

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Old 2013-03-17, 01:10 PM   [Ignore Me] #70
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if the crossbow makes it into the game, the most important thing is the sound...

it just desperately needs to sound like the crossbow from half life. i loved that pleasing "BUNZ" sound.

there are only two roles where the crossbow would fit into the game. both for the infiltrator:
1. a strong single shot/slow reload silenced stealth weapon, maybe usable while cloaked

2. a strong extremely slow reloading single shot crossbow using bolts with explosive tips. basically a very slow firing sniper rifle with splash damage.
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Old 2013-03-17, 04:04 PM   [Ignore Me] #71
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If they institute a crossbow into the game then I think it should have a hand crank to wind it up and should only be able to shoot once every ten seconds.
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Old 2013-03-17, 04:17 PM   [Ignore Me] #72
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SOE is high as f**k, wants to implement crossbows, sword and sh*t.
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Old 2013-03-17, 06:44 PM   [Ignore Me] #73
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Well PS1 had the fusion blade or whatever it was called. Who knows? Maybe we'll see power shields and muskets .

And with the new hats coming along, who wouldn't fancy the idea of a TR in a Commissar hat, wielding a sabre, shouting from a prowler 'Drive me closer I want to hit them with my sword!'?
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Old 2013-03-17, 07:51 PM   [Ignore Me] #74
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In before the VS crossbow shoots plasma bolts.
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Old 2013-03-17, 08:30 PM   [Ignore Me] #75
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Originally Posted by CrimsonTemplar View Post
Well PS1 had the fusion blade or whatever it was called. Who knows? Maybe we'll see power shields and muskets .

And with the new hats coming along, who wouldn't fancy the idea of a TR in a Commissar hat, wielding a sabre, shouting from a prowler 'Drive me closer I want to hit them with my sword!'?
Dude, who wouldn't want a Chain-sword/Progressive-Sword/LIGHTSABER?!?!
The only real difference from the knives would be one-hit over two-hit kills and MAYBE an increase in range for slower activation time/movement speed, but who wouldn't want to tear into a ScatterMAX in melee?
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