News: Planetside 2 beta plans - Page 51

Zar · 2012-07-15, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by IDukeNukeml

Edit: haha.... I see what you did there

was about to say >.< think that was at Otleaz not you duke xD

Timey · 2012-07-15, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by SergeantNubins

There is a noticeable difference in gameplay performance the lower you get your ping for everyone. Anyone who says someone with a 100 ping doesnt have an advantage over someone with a 200 ping is just talking crap.

It is easier now to play with a high ping in a modern game, because of advances in client side prediction (so you dont have to predict where they will be yourself when teh shot finaly leaves your gun), but ultimately if you have 2 players shooting at each other (or even multiple players shooting at one), the person whose computer is able to tell the server first that they got the killing shot, is the one that gets the kill. .1 of a second may not seem like much but in .1 of a second a bullet will have travelled 300 foot.

It's like having a queue of instructions for the server and players with better pings are able to cut a few places ahead in line.

This is true, and no one with their sanity with the information we have on current day's interwebs etc will try to deny this. 10 years ago when I clicked my mouse1, the rocket launched a few hundred milliseconds later in quake.

Now, today, the powder in the bullet explodes the instant the mouse1.exe is clicked.

And now I don't even know what I'm talking about, so I'll just stop typing and keep hoping I've not insulted anyone again.

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It's a thing of which you obviously know about. It's not, however, quantum physics. Give me 109h and I can tell you about it more than you now know about it

Timey · 2012-07-15, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by IDukeNukeml

When She Cries (lyrics) - Restless Heart - YouTube

Love this song!! Puttin' Planetside 2 to bed for the night

If you listen you'll get it too!

I love you duke.

Rockstone · 2012-07-15, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by Timey

This is true, and no one with their sanity with the information we have on current day's interwebs etc will try to deny this. 10 years ago when I clicked my mouse1, the rocket launched a few hundred milliseconds later in quake.

Now, today, the powder in the bullet explodes the instant the mouse1.exe is clicked.

And now I don't even know what I'm talking about, so I'll just stop typing and keep hoping I've not insulted anyone again.

It's a thing of which you obviously know about. It's not, however, quantum physics. Give me 109h and I can tell you about it more than you now know about it

I can explain how it works in both the Frostbite engine (or at least BF2's engine), and in source and UDK.

In Source, when someone fires a gun, there is a timestamp sent to the server along with the packet that says the gun was fired. The server interprets the packet, reads that a bullet was fired, and then goes back in time (into the server history) and checks where all players were at the timestamp. If a player were calculated to be within the bullet's raytrace (i.e. the path of the bullet), the server interprets it as struck. To reduce strain, physics objects are not calculated.

In UDK, the client predicts whether the player is struck or not, and if the client is wrong, the server corrects it. There is no system such as the one found in Source. (at least that I can tell) http://udn.epicgames.com/Three/Netwo...20The%20Future

In the Battlefield 2/Frostbite engine, hit detection is client side. The client fires a projectile and tells the server what the client struck.

Joe Soldier · 2012-07-15, 11:17 PM

Why me? I did not get into the technical test!!!!!! This ruined my weekend!!!

Chrispin · 2012-07-16, 12:39 AM

Originally Posted by Joe Soldier

Why me? I did not get into the technical test!!!!!! This ruined my weekend!!!

You mean to tell me you didn't get in??? I thought everybody who's anybody got into the technical test!

Rago · 2012-07-16, 03:53 AM

XD Now you cant see who is Online in the Official PS2 Forum,being not in Beta.
Yeaterday we could see there was a Crowd going on there, well More Invites on Monday, which is Today, Good Luck everybody !

FONKY · 2012-07-16, 07:21 AM

Thankyou Higby that was very helpful

ruskyandrei · 2012-07-16, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by Rockstone

In the Battlefield 2/Frostbite engine, hit detection is client side. The client fires a projectile and tells the server what the client struck.

I doubt it is not checked by the server. Having hit detection entirely on the client side would make it wide open to hacking.

Coreldan · 2012-07-16, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by ruskyandrei

I doubt it is not checked by the server. Having hit detection entirely on the client side would make it wide open to hacking.

Indeed, which is why there are hackers who kill the entire server without Line of Sight, all while sitting in their spawn.

In properly server verified games, the only cheats you can do is aimbot and wallhack, pretty much.