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View Poll Results: What do you identify yourself as? | |||
Atheist/Skeptic/Agnostic | 151 | 70.89% | |
Catholic | 21 | 9.86% | |
Protestant | 24 | 11.27% | |
Jewish | 5 | 2.35% | |
Muslim | 2 | 0.94% | |
Philisophy (Such as Buddhism) | 10 | 4.69% | |
Voters: 213. You may not vote on this poll |
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2012-06-14, 07:05 PM | [Ignore Me] #751 | ||||
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It's actually one of the reasons /r/atheism has a bad reputation and people stick to the more specific /r/exjw, /r/excatholic etc type subreddits on that site. I just linked the FAQ since that's the only place it exists.
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2012-06-14, 07:26 PM | [Ignore Me] #752 | |||
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Anthropologically speaking, based upon many scholarly definitions, Atheism can be defined as a non-theistic religion. |
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2012-06-14, 07:34 PM | [Ignore Me] #753 | |||
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Reddit is about as non-biased as going to Al-Jazeera for information regarding the U.S. military. If the bar is that low, I might as well start linking archived 4chan threads about unicorn overlords. At least 4chan has disclaimers. Last edited by Zolan; 2012-06-14 at 07:36 PM. |
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2012-06-14, 08:05 PM | [Ignore Me] #754 | |||
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You sound as lost as Duke. He got linked stuff and didn't read it either. He kept making similar statements even after people refuted them.
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[Thoughts and Ideas on the Direction of Planetside 2] Last edited by Sirisian; 2012-06-14 at 08:09 PM. |
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2012-06-14, 09:32 PM | [Ignore Me] #757 | |||
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It's akin to presenting views on eating meat from the vegetarian page, then trying to justify it as non-biased because there is also a fast food page. |
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2012-06-14, 09:39 PM | [Ignore Me] #758 | ||
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I could link information to the contrary, but the fact that I linked it doesn't make it true. Most of the information on that page isn't even related to what I was talking about (grammar/definition/agnosticism presented as a religious belief). It's just a handbook for reddit atheists to link people to because they can't answer for themselves.
Last edited by Zolan; 2012-06-14 at 09:41 PM. |
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2012-06-14, 09:59 PM | [Ignore Me] #759 | ||
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So what you're telling me is you think Atheism is more than just "a lack of belief in deities" and is itself a religion? Is not believing in Christianity a religion? Or not believing in Islam? If so one would have multiple religions. It doesn't make sense to say that disbelief in something causes one to be part of a religion. The act of being forced to label oneself an Atheist is in direct response to people believing in deities.
It's gotten so complicated I think with religions trying to redefine Atheism that people have been forced to not label themselves at all because it's gotten so out of control.
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2012-06-14, 10:26 PM | [Ignore Me] #760 | |||
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The term itself of course means only that, but it is virtually equivalent to any religious belief structure. It meets all 7 of the divisions of religion as defined by Ninian Smart, for instance. Atheism is also protected under the free exercise of religion clause of the first amendment, as it has been ruled (on several occasions) an equivalent to a religion, all of the way up to the SCOTUS. Everyone keeps assuming that in order for something to be a religion, that it must involve a belief in a God. That is simply not true. Last edited by Zolan; 2012-06-14 at 10:29 PM. |
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2012-06-14, 10:55 PM | [Ignore Me] #761 | ||
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Here is a link to a decent representation of those 7 dimensions.
http://pk.b5z.net/i/u/2167316/f/Nini...f_Religion.pdf |
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2012-06-14, 11:04 PM | [Ignore Me] #762 | |||
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Just like how Theism is not a religion, Atheism is not a religion. get. that. into. your. head. |
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2012-06-14, 11:17 PM | [Ignore Me] #763 | ||
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Strong catholic.... and this poll is a little silly as from my personal experience the gaming and computing community is overwhelmingly atheistic which I believe is a result of that same IT community feeling attached to science.
Not that scientific outlooks necessarily result in atheism (I myself though still in High school am strongly attracted to the sciences and still a strong catholic). Just that there is a tendency for people in these communities to feel that atheism is an intellectually superior viewpoint and intellectual superiority is drastically important in those fields. Basically you should have known that this poll was going to landslide atheism :P |
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2012-06-15, 01:00 AM | [Ignore Me] #764 | |||||
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I want to say it's not that Atheists feel intellectually superior. However, it can seem that way. There are many arguments I've seen religious people make like "you think you're more moral than god himself" and for someone that doesn't believe in deities you're hit with a catch-22 since you can only reply with "yes, I'm more moral than an imaginary being" and it comes off as extremely arrogant to them. This is all part of an Atheist viewpoint which was brought up a few times.
I have a Computer Science degree and am 2 classes from a masters. You got me there. I do love me some science.
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[Thoughts and Ideas on the Direction of Planetside 2] Last edited by Sirisian; 2012-06-15 at 01:03 AM. |
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2012-06-15, 02:33 AM | [Ignore Me] #765 | |||
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If by this you mean "everyone still wholeheartedly disagrees with me and im not going to respond to their criticisms of my position" then yeh, exactly as you'd hoped |
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